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Iran's Ayatollah Ali Khamenei is killed in Israeli strike, ending 36-year rule

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Re: Iran's Ayatollah Ali Khamenei is killed in Israeli strike, ending 36-year rule

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Post by sethev »

somenameforme wrote: post #688
sethev wrote: post #664

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And gain experience

In every field where competence can be objectively measured, experience does not endlessly correlate with competence. There's always a growth phase but then there's a bell curve of age vs competence, that reaches a peak and then there's a constant decline from there. So for instance chess is primarily a mental game, yet the decline comes as early as one's mid thirties for world class players. I'm fully willing to acc…

>There's always a growth phase but then there's a bell curve of age vs competence

A bell curve tracks the distribution of a single random variable. You're mixing statistical metaphors.

Re: Iran's Ayatollah Ali Khamenei is killed in Israeli strike, ending 36-year rule

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Post by hearsathought »

jordanb wrote: post #498
sega_sai wrote: post #471

I have no sympathy for Khamenei, but, if that is allowed we should not be surprised if Denmark prime minister is next?

Weirdly Europe and even Canada seem to be completely onboard with all this..

Surely they will be sanctioning Israel like they sanctioned russia for attacking ukraine? After all aren't Canada and europe self proclaimed beacons of light?

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Post by HDThoreaun »

throw0101c wrote: post #682
HDThoreaun wrote: post #665

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The US didn’t mass kill Jan 6ers.

> The US didn’t mass kill Jan 6ers. Were the Jan6ers good guys or bad guys? Did they deserve to get punished? (Trump didn't/doesn't think so, which is why he pardoned them; Pence may have a different opinion.) The fact that different countries have different punishments for the same crime is a cultural artefact. The fact that you find it unacceptable is personal opinion. In Singapore drug use (not even distribution)…

Moral relativism can be real and I can be against another cultures moral ideology. They’re allowed to have their beliefs and I’m allowed to think they are wrong and they deserve to be killed for having them. Protestors do not deserve to be killed for protesting. People who kill protestors for protesting do deserve to be killed. Is that all personal opinion? Yes of course, so what?

Re: Iran's Ayatollah Ali Khamenei is killed in Israeli strike, ending 36-year rule

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Post by jpster »

Cipater wrote: post #454

I work with and know a lot of Shia (non-Iranian) Muslims and listening to them talk about this assassination I'm convinced that the likelihood of attempted terror attacks against the US has increased significantly. The non-Iranian part is key. Millions of muslims around the world viewed the Iranian theocracy as the only power in the world fighting for Islam. They are devastated.

> the likelihood of attempted terror attacks against the US has increased significantly.

And one wonders if a terror attack on US soil would be the justification POTUS uses to cancel elections

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Post by padjo »

bonsai_spool wrote: post #550
baxtr wrote: post #470

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I got the point. I’m challenging the causal chain. I don’t think anyone would agree that the crusades in the Middle Ages caused the current state of the Middle East. There is no way you can prove one or the other side. We can’t do controlled experiments with other worlds. So it’s all guesswork. That’s why I’m challenging. I think that things are much less causally connected as people want to believe.

> I don’t think anyone would agree that the crusades in the Middle Ages caused the current state of the Middle East. I think the Crusades have not yet ended… And it is not clear that fewer people died following the US interventions than would have had Iraq been left to its own.

Hegseth certainly doesn't given his book title

Re: Iran's Ayatollah Ali Khamenei is killed in Israeli strike, ending 36-year rule

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Post by padjo »

tylerflick wrote: post #717
seydor wrote: post #374

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So what about libya, syria, yemen, afghanistan, even venezuela plus you can't know how Iraq would be today without the invasions

Iraq was ruled by a sociopath that used chemical weapons against his own citizens. I didn’t agree with the invasion, but there is no doubt Iraq is better off today than it would have been without U.S. involvement.

That's an absurd statement. No doubt? Saddam would be pushing 90 now, odds are he would be dead anyway and who knows how that chain of events would have gone.

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Post by markus_zhang »

rayiner wrote: post #714
markus_zhang wrote: post #528

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The "good" part is that Sunni Muslims probably won't have the same feeling, or do they? But I agree with the assessment. I'd definitely avoid large public events. Darn the world is becoming more and more chaotic and we are just waiting for China to put up the last piece to make it into 19th Europe.

Sunni Muslims will be upset too, because Israel was involved.

Upset enough to get into terrorism?

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Post by [deleted] »

rayiner wrote: post #713
Cipater wrote: post #567

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Any celebrations are an indicator but are far from the entire picture. Wouldn't there be celebrations in the US if Trump died? What conclusions would you draw from that?

Judging by George W. Bush’s approval rating right after 9/11, it probably wouldn’t be very many.

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Re: Iran's Ayatollah Ali Khamenei is killed in Israeli strike, ending 36-year rule

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Post by hattimaTim »

2OEH8eoCRo0 wrote: post #3

Best of luck to the people of Iran. Be safe! I'm praying for the best!

They can not sadly. As the monsters of america and israel have free license to kill anyone, they will kill anyone they want to make their god happy. In the case of iran, they already killed 100+ girls in a school even though they have perfect intelligence and precision attack tech.
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