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The Singularity will occur on a Tuesday

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Re: The Singularity will occur on a Tuesday

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Post by threethirtytwo »

bluegatty wrote: post #667
threethirtytwo wrote: post #257

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I don’t think you’re rational. Part of being able to be unbiased is to see it in yourself. First of all. Nobody knows how LLMs work. Whether the singularity comes or not cannot be rationalized from what we know about LLMs because we simply don’t understand LLMs. This is unequivocal. I am not saying I don’t understand LLMs. I’m saying humanity doesn’t understand LLMs in much the same way we don’t understand the human…

this is wrong

It is not. I would suggest engaging in the other branch of this thread, because people who agreed with you voiced their opinion and they were proven utterly wrong.

Humanity does not understand how LLMs work. This is definitive.

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Post by baxtr »

everyday7732 wrote: post #718
baxtr wrote: post #634

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Look that’s the thing: we know about mass extinction events. So we can use these to extrapolate. A 10+ kilometer wide asteroid will most likely cause global mass extinction, by blocking sunlight and collapsing ecosystems. That’s how the dinosaurs were wiped out 66 million years ago. Such events are estimated to occur roughly once every 100-200 million years. That’s not fiction that’s science. If we get hit by one of…

That's the whole point of the Turkey illusion. From the Turkey's point of view, it is safe and fed. It has never witnessed other Turkeys being killed, it has never been killed before. If you are the turkey, it's difficult to predict your death and all the available evidence appears to support the hypothesis that you will not be suddenly slaughtered. If you are a very smart turkey, you might notice that the farmer is…

please refer to my other comment here: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46974245

Re: The Singularity will occur on a Tuesday

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Post by baxtr »

toldnotmywrath wrote: post #650
baxtr wrote: post #409

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I love that you brought this up. Chickens are killed ALL the time. It’s a recurring mass event. If you were a smart chicken you could see that pattern and put it into a formula. In contrast, the end of Humanity would be a singular event. It’s even in the name… And that is fiction / speculation in comparison. It’s not backed by any data. Human survival over 300,000 years by contrast is. I mean it’s fine to dream thing…

The frame is not from our view. It is from that of this singular chicken who has only ever known its keeper's care. As that chicken, we simply do not know if Christmas will ever come. The collapse of civilizations has happened many times. Today, all of humanity is bound tighter than ever before. In the latter half of the last century, we were on the brink of nuclear war. New things are happening under the sun every d…

See here: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46974245

Re: The Singularity will occur on a Tuesday

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Post by [deleted] »

stingraycharles wrote: post #568
rektomatic wrote: post #228

If i have to read one more "It isn't this. It's this" My head will explode. That phrase is the real singularity

I'd like to know how many comments over here are written using similar means. I can't be bothered to get enthusiastic about articles written by LLMs, and I'm surprised so many people in the comments here are delighted by the article.

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Post by willis936 »

danielmarkbruce wrote: post #710
willis936 wrote: post #661

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I'm not missing the point. If you recall your computer architecture class there are many vector processing architectures out there. Long before there was nvidia the world's largest and most expensive computers were vector processors. It's inaccurate to say "gaming built SIMD".

You are missing the point - it's an economic point. Very little R&D was put into said processors. The scale wasn't there. The software stack wasn't there (because the scale wasn't there). No one is suggesting gaming chips were the first time someone thought of such an architecture or built a chip with such an architecture. They are suggesting the gaming industry produced the required scale to actually do all the work…

The Cray-1, which produced half a billion USD in revenue in today's dollars, at a time when computing was still science fiction, did not demonstrate scale? I just can't take you in good faith because there has never been a time when large scale SIMD computing was not advanced by commercial interests.

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Post by samspot »

atomic128 wrote: post #51

Once men turned their thinking over to machines in the hope that this would set them free. But that only permitted other men with machines to enslave them. ... Thou shalt not make a machine in the likeness of a human mind. -- Frank Herbert, Dune You won't read, except the output of your LLM. You won't write, except prompts for your LLM. Why write code or prose when the machine can write it for you? You won't think or…

I think we overestimate the amount of reading, writing, and thinking that occurred before LLMs.

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Post by Fnoord »

Patch Tuesday. They were coming for us. Thousands of AI bots. Scrambling. All our computers getting pwned by both zero days the machines were sitting on, and quickly programmed exploits which were abused the exact same minute the patch notes were up. First, they came for our IoT. But I didn't run any IoT, so I did not object. Second, they came for our smartphones. But I didn't own any smartphone, so I did not object. Next, they came for our desktops. But I didn't run any desktop, so I did not object. Then, they came for the cloud. But I didn't run any cloud, so I did not object. Finally, they came for our server. And only I remained, no other server existed at this point. I was quickly able to describe the above, with the conclusion: the machines won. EOL

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Post by Aushin »

nomel wrote: post #143
dakolli wrote: post #110

Are people in San Francisco that stupid that they're having open-clawd meetups and talking about the Singularity non stop? Has San Francisco become just a cliche larp?

There's all sorts of conversations like this that are genuinely exciting and fairly profound when you first consider them. Maybe you're older and have had enough conversations about the concept of a singularity that the topic is already boring to you. Let them have their fun. Related, some adults are watching The Matrix, a 26 year old movie , for the first time today. For some proof that it's not some common idea, I…

Ashton Kutcher is 48 years old.

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Post by AndrewKemendo »

tinfoilhatter wrote: post #708
AndrewKemendo wrote: post #686

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I don’t know either of those people I know Ray Kurzweil and Ben Goertzel though so maybe start there

I'm familiar with Ray Kurzweil. He's a Luciferian and transhumanist. You're obviously also a Luciferian, since you are so gung-ho about transhumanism, but I suppose you're probably in good company on HN. There are lots of deranged people on this website.

Man I sure am learning a lot about myself from you

Thank you Internet person for all of this wisdom about my life that I didn’t have

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