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De-dollarization: Is the US dollar losing its dominance? (2025)

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Re: De-dollarization: Is the US dollar losing its dominance? (2025)

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> War with the US isn't a clear cut "good vs evil" situation as the EU vs russia would be I don't think EU vs Russia would be a "good vs evil" situation. Russia/US seem pretty similar to me, dictatorship/propaganda with a majority of the population being regular people not in favor of any war, and 30% of indoctrinated people.

Russians were and are pro war by all reports.

not my Russians friends or colleagues. I also don't trust any poll coming from Russia.

Re: De-dollarization: Is the US dollar losing its dominance? (2025)

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The other thing about Bitcoin is that it's deflationary, which leads to people holding the currency rather than spending it, as predicted by Econ 101.

We've witness deflationary forces in computer hw for decades and no one is holding off their purchases. Time is scarce and it ultimately forces consumption because otherwise, what would you be saving for? Don't need Econ 101 to understand this basic reality.

Well there is a difference between people not buying anything at all and being significantly less than they are now. Consumer goods and services is only the tip of the iceberg.

How much do you think debt would cost and how easy would it be for businesses to get credit?

Combining a deflationary currency with a growing (or at least non static) economy is bad a everyone who has a basic understanding of history prior to the 1930s can see that. Something like bitcoin would be even much worse than the gold standard.

Re: De-dollarization: Is the US dollar losing its dominance? (2025)

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Venezuela would like a word

Well, that's just it. America has not so brazenly claimed territory for such selfish reasons in well over 100 years. Which is proof enough that America is pulling up the ladder on Pax Americana.

>America has not so brazenly claimed territory

No, just sovereign resources. Totes not imperialism. At all.

Re: De-dollarization: Is the US dollar losing its dominance? (2025)

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Trump is a populist. He supports tariffs for the exact same reason Bernie Sanders does. There is a reason so many bernie bros jumped to camp Trump in 2016 when (globalist) Hillary won the nomination. There is no secret or conspiracy going on here. Trump is a populist president and is unsurprisingly doing populist things, elected because of his populist stances. At this point you have to have stabbed your eyes out and…

yeah, he’s a real populist with the <15% that wants the federal boot on everyone else’s neck. i think there’s a name for that specific type of “populism”.

Don't come to me if you weren't aware that populism is a left/right spectrum.

Re: De-dollarization: Is the US dollar losing its dominance? (2025)

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> ICE has widespread support for what they are actually doing Minnesota would like to have a chat with you.

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> deportation rates are much too low

“U.S. Border Patrol agents recorded nearly 238,000 apprehensions of migrants crossing the southern border illegally in fiscal year 2025” [1]. For 2012 to 2015, the chart shows about 360k, 420k, 480k and 330k, respectively.

That means ICE is spending $330 to 580 thousand dollars per additional Southwest border encounter in 2025 versus 2012. ($250 to 440 thousand if we average Obama’s second-term numbers.)

These numbers 10x even San Francisco’s circa 2016 homeless-industrial profligacy [2]. Unless ICE is a ball of wormy corruption, they’re clearly not focused on immigration enforcement.

If you prefer anecdotes, I live in Wyoming. Our farms are de facto exempt from enforcement. I believe in enforcing our immigration laws while we work to reform through the legislature. But that's clearly not what ICE is doing. The most-generous interpretation is they're making videos that make people who want enforcement feel good.

[1] https://www.whitehouse.gov/articles/2025/10/icymi-illegal-cr...

[2] https://www.hoover.org/research/despite-spending-11-billion-...

Re: De-dollarization: Is the US dollar losing its dominance? (2025)

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Many of us see it, but many others seem to be embracing it and trying to hasten it for reasons unknown. They pine for the glory days of post-WWII US hegemony but are actively undoing the institutions that were instrumental in US economic and political power at that time. They have no coherent world view, they are severely confused, but unfortunately numerous.

Well people pushing for this have a world view. They see a bipolar world with China dominating Asia, US dominating it's hemisphere and Europe fending for itself. They also have major crypto holdings so instability of both major currencies benefits them financially.

Except that Crypto is also falling with the stock market (and faster), so if anything, it is correlated the wrong direction

Re: De-dollarization: Is the US dollar losing its dominance? (2025)

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What about buying rare earth metals or containers of electronics or purses? It's a bit more work, but it's not impossible to solve the problem. Also, it's not like a 99-year lease has no value. That's your entire lifetime+.

I think OP's point is that a "99 year lease" isn't worth very much without a firm guarantee that the least in fact lasts that long. I don't really have an opinion on land leases in the PRC, but it doesn't seem facially unreasonable to suspect that a foreign lease holder's land value wouldn't be a priority for China's leadership during an economic crisis.

This is on full display with the US's Venezuela problem: no one believes the US will hold it, so oil companies don't want to invest because last time exactly this happened - they had everything seized.

Imagine if you'd invested in lithium mining in Afghanistan 15 years ago: you'd likely have paid a lot, made little money, lost employees and then lost it to the Taliban.

Re: De-dollarization: Is the US dollar losing its dominance? (2025)

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Thats a feature not a bug. The Chinese government spend a lot of money keeping the value of the RMB low.

This is actually an interesting point. Wouldn't it be bad for China if the US isn't the reserve currency/the RMB gains a lot more in value relative to the USD? It would proportionally, negatively, affect their export profits, no?

Germany did relatively fine though? Despite the German mark being the second largest reserve currency and their economy being heavily reliant on exports.

Re: De-dollarization: Is the US dollar losing its dominance? (2025)

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> Say what you will about how dated a gold standard is, but it forces immediate fiscal responsibility upon governments We were on metal standards for millenia. Governments routinely spent beyond their means, including for imperial aims. This is like four centuries of Roman history.

Yes, but there were practical limits to currency debasement when the currency was a physical commodity with intrinsic value. People notice when their coins start getting filled with lead, and there were serious political repercussions for it. You cant just conjure a trillion gold/silver coins out of nothing like you can with fiat, and the ability to do so is 100% guaranteed to be abused.

> there were practical limits to currency debasement when the currency was a physical commodity

"In the second century, a modius of wheat (approximately nine liters), during normal times, had sold for ½ Denarius…. the same modius of wheat sold in 335 AD for over 6000 denarii, and in 338 AD for over 10,000" [1].

Note that inflation can also occur with zero debasement if the economy around the fixed money supply collapses. This happened in Rome when Pompey and later Augustus were trashing trade routes. It may have even led to the collapse of India's ancient democracies.

> there were serious political repercussions for it

There weren't. The state historically borrowed from the hilt of the sword. Economic collapse constrained kings and emperors. Not politics.

[1] https://etedge-insights.com/featured-insights/analysis/how-h...

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