Porsche sold more electrified cars in Europe in 2025 than pure gas-powered cars

Post by vladvasiliu » Wed, Jan 21, 2026, 10:33 AM UTC

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> People aren't being asked to dump their current reliable vehicles Depends on where the people live. In France, that's just about what they're asked. If their car is "too old" (reliability doesn't matter, only age), they may no longer drive in Paris and some other major cities on weekdays from 6 AM to 8 PM or something like that. https://www.france.fr/en/article/crit-air-anti-pollution-veh...

I have an ICE car and I agree with restrictions like that. You don't need to be Jeff Bezos to own a car that's at least Euro 5 and doesn't heavily pollute the air. If you own some 20+ year old beater that smokes like a chimney, get fined, we don't have to tolerate your health hazard mobile.

Post by Thorrez » Wed, Jan 21, 2026, 2:19 PM UTC

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>EV's produce 38% less tire & brake dust than ICE vehicles. >non-exhaust emissions on an ICE vehicle are roughly 1/3 brake dust, 1/3 tire dust and 1/3 road dust. EV's have almost no impact on road dust, 83% lest brake dust and 20% more tire dust. https://electrek.co/2025/05/27/another-way-electric-cars-cle... https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46219820

> though much of this is attributable to a vehicle mix that is more focused on larger vehicles, as it seems like every EV manufacturer is making huge SUVs and few are making small cars My point exactly. Your new EV has more tire dust (and probably more brake dust) than my old, smaller ICE.

Post by WorldMaker » Wed, Jan 21, 2026, 4:03 PM UTC

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>every week I see a new Chinese brand on the road And I think the difference is going to be apparent 15-20 years from now when new parts are needed for these models. With the big boys like Ford, Toyota etc I can trust that they manufactured (and still manufacture) parts with warehouses full of them and I can always find the part I need to repair a vehicle. I very much doubt that we will see the same thing with Chines…

No EV is going to run 20 years from now unless replacing batteries will start costing significantly less.

Post by dredmorbius » Wed, Jan 21, 2026, 8:40 PM UTC

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Automobile buyers who buy American or European cars are more likely to be auto enthusiasts. Then there's the utility / practical / recreational crowd who goes for SUVs and pickup trucks. Those whose primary aim is utility are already in (non-EU) foreign markets or used. Those are invisible to new-car US/EU sales. It's a classic Innovators Dilemma dynamic (Clayton Christensen), where chasing higher-end market niches t…

In the US there isn't much choice. There are a few Japanese and Korean cars - but even those brands put effort into appealing to auto enthusiasts. Remember, if you need a widget that you don't otherwise care about knowing someone who does care about them recommends something is a very important factor in your decision. The realistic difference between a car/suv of similar size between GM, Toyota, or VW (random choice…

Post by gred » Thu, Jan 22, 2026, 1:16 AM UTC

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> Practicality beats enthusiasm for 95% of car use. About two years ago I rented an electric car for a few days. I felt like I wasted a ton of time finding a charging station, jumping through phone app hoops to get the charging process started, and then waiting for the car to charge. I've stayed away from electric rentals since, even though they're often cheaper.

Where are you based? Here is a different narrative: https://www.reddit.com/r/technology/comments/1qh5kdg/us_pres...