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Dollar-stores overcharge customers while promising low prices

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Re: Dollar-stores overcharge customers while promising low prices

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Even if they accurately charged shelf prices, these places are still a ripoff targeting the vulnerable. The list price is low but the per-unit price is astronomical compared to grocery store prices.

Aw man, that is such a rip off!

Grocery stores are a rip off too. The per unit price of items at them are astronomical compared to Sam's Club prices.

Sam's Club is a rip off too. The per unit price of items at them are astronomical compared to the wholesale price.

Re: Dollar-stores overcharge customers while promising low prices

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Have you ever been to a dollar store? Its much cheaper for the same items than a regular grocery store. Also not everyone needs a Costco sized tub of mayo. You test it yourself go by a standard sized candy bar at safeway/alberstons and then at a dollar store. Bottle of coke. Birthday card. Better yet compare the cost spices. Try to buy bay leaves at regular grocery store for under $5.

Candy bars and soda sure whatever. Look at essentials. The dollar store near me charges $1.99 for 8oz of Tide, the Albertsons a single block further charges $9.99 for 84oz, the dollar store is over double the cost. It's the same story with soap, cleaning products, etc. A tiny container for cheap feels like a deal if you can't do the math, but it's not. Feel free to "test it yourself." I'm lucky in that I have a real…

So these big chains have drive out all competition. I assume you are referring to the big chain dollar stores. So how did they drive out all competition? Did they do it by charging more for items or by charging less for items? I think I am failing to see any sort of logic in the argument here.

Re: Dollar-stores overcharge customers while promising low prices

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Have you ever been to a dollar store? Its much cheaper for the same items than a regular grocery store. Also not everyone needs a Costco sized tub of mayo. You test it yourself go by a standard sized candy bar at safeway/alberstons and then at a dollar store. Bottle of coke. Birthday card. Better yet compare the cost spices. Try to buy bay leaves at regular grocery store for under $5.

Spices might be the most universal ripoff anywhere in the US. You can get it so much cheaper either at ethnic stores, generic plastic bags at certain grocery stores in the ethnic aisles, or restaurant supply stores for spices that don’t have a short shelf life. It’s so bizarre to me. At some point someone needs to do an in-depth expose on how this spice monopoly happened.

It doesn't sound all that monopolistic if there really are as many different places to buy it at cheaper prices as you say in your same comment...

Re: Dollar-stores overcharge customers while promising low prices

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Even if they accurately charged shelf prices, these places are still a ripoff targeting the vulnerable. The list price is low but the per-unit price is astronomical compared to grocery store prices.

Yup. Dollar General is worse than a convenience store like 7-11, it's an expensive inconvenience store. And we need more local co-op grocery stores like Berkeley Bowl, the Davis Co-op, and ATX Wheatsville.

LOL yeah OK, are we just making random statements now?

Yup. Outback Steakhouse is worse than a fast food store like McDonald's, it's an expensive not fast food store.

Re: Dollar-stores overcharge customers while promising low prices

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an interesting contrast that i think about a lot: - in rural america, there are dollar stores everywhere that overcharge for small items. people treat them as a necessary evil and begrudgingly shop there. - in nyc, there are corner bodegas everywhere that overcharge for small items. they are generally seen as beloved neighborhood institutions. so... what's the difference? corporate owned vs family owned? length of ti…

Not really sure where your examples or experiences come from, but the majority of rural people that I know love most of their dollar stores.

Re: Dollar-stores overcharge customers while promising low prices

#726

This comment section is full of allegations that dollar stores are predatory, yet when I look up their operating margins they are super low (4% for Dollar General, for example).

Just because your margins are low doesn't mean you still aren't screwing over poor people.

LOL it just seems that no business can do right here. So these low margin stores should just shutter and close up shop because they are somehow still "screwing poor people"? Would you commend them if their business just infinitely ran at a loss or gave people cash at the register instead of charging them anything for the items that they want?

Re: Dollar-stores overcharge customers while promising low prices

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As someone who typically only enters a Whole Foods or a Home Depot for her retail experiences, the one time I entered a Dollar General, I was struck by how depressing it felt. I would never go back into one. Yes, I know how out of touch this sounds.

I think that's deliberate: you walk into a dollar store and think "they aren't spending a dime on the shopping experience, so they must be passing that dime onto me."

Yes, yes of course. The leftover smell of homeless urine by the front door isn't real; it is only carefully calculated scents piped in by corporate dollar store yuppies to have you believe this is an authentic experience.

Re: Dollar-stores overcharge customers while promising low prices

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From what I've seen, they take a terrible business and liquify its valuable assets for their investors, freeing up capital to be invested more productively elsewhere in the economy. Of course those investors could take the money and commission a bunch of statues of themselves, but frequently they do something more productive than that. A lot of the negative reaction to them seems to me to be mostly emotional. They'll…

> lot of the negative reaction to them seems to me to be mostly emotional Mine specifically stems from PE buying up all but one 24x7 emergency vets in a 20 miles radius from me. All of them were thriving businesses. There is only one remaining non PE ones has its days numbered. After monopolizing the emergency vet market, they shut down a few locations, which previously acted as competition for each other, effectivel…

Sounds like a problem with lack of competition. Would you have been happier if it was a publicly traded company that did it? Amazon health or some such?

Re: Dollar-stores overcharge customers while promising low prices

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If the goal is to fix the behavior instead of just documenting it, the penalties need to escalate with repeat violations. The first mismatch can be treated as an honest mistake. But when the third or fourth inspection still shows the same pattern, the fine shouldn't be the same $5k: it should jump sharply. At some point the cost of ignoring the problem has to exceed the profit from letting it continue. Right now the…

Right on.

If the goal is to fix student grades instead of just documenting it, the points counted off need to escalate with repeated incorrect answers. The first incorrect answer can be treated as an honest mistake. But when the third or fourth quiz still shows the same incorrect answers, the grade shouldn't be the same C; it should decline sharply. At some point the cost of ignoring the problem has to exceed the points from letting it continue.

You just solved education!

Re: Dollar-stores overcharge customers while promising low prices

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How the hell does consolidation, monopolization, externalizing costs and extreme leverage "clear the room for new businesses"? Even on HN playing the role of PE apologist is not going to fly ...

Consolidation frees up real estate, allowing new businesses to open. Where I live, old supermarkets are now farmers’ markets, trampoline parks, and health clubs, and an old car dealership is a church.

Fantasyland in the house!
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