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Re: Google Antigravity

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Post by ehnto »

paulddraper wrote: post #635
Miraste wrote: post #623

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VS Code is technically an Electron app, but it's not the usual lazy resource hog implementation like Slack or something. A lot of work went into making it fast. I doubt you'll find many non-Electron full IDEs that are faster. Look at Visual Studio, that's using a nice native framework and it runs at the speed of fossilized molasses.

Exactly. JetBrains, Visual Studio, Eclipse, Netbeans… VS Code does well with performance. Maybe one of the new ones usurps, but I wouldn’t put my money on it.

I have always found JetBrains stuff super snappy. I use neovim as a daily driver but for some projects the inference and debugging integration in JetBrains is more robust.

Re: Google Antigravity

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Post by jatora »

absoluteunit1 wrote: post #491
lbrito wrote: post #416

The agentic spam is exhausting. I just wanted to code. Too early in my career to not give a shit and retire, but too late be excited about these things and eager to learn. What a time...

Same here - completely relate. One thing I’ve noticed though that actually coding (without the use of AI; maybe a bit of tab auto-complete) is that I’m actually way faster when working in my domain than I am when using AI tools. Everytime I use AI tools in my domain-expertise area, I find it ends up slowing me down. Introducing subtle bugs, me having to provide insane amount of context and details (at which point it…

it is absolutely poor skill, or disengenuous at best, for any coder to claim AI tools slow them down lol.

Re: Google Antigravity

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Post by antonvs »

troupo wrote: post #571
SR2Z wrote: post #478

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Electron apps will win because they're just web apps - and web apps won so decisively years ago that they will never go anywhere.

No. Electron apps won, not web apps. There's a huge difference.

Web apps won as well. Electron is just a desktop specialization of that.

Re: Google Antigravity

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Post by TheRoque »

roncesvalles wrote: post #360
sippeangelo wrote: post #121

> Neither engenders user trust in the work that the agent undertook. Antigravity provides context on agentic work at a more natural task-level abstraction, with the necessary and sufficient set of artifacts and verification results, for the user to gain that trust. I'm going to need an AI summary of this page to even start comprehending this... It doesn't help that the scrolling makes me nauseous, just like real anti…

Then there's this: "A more intuitive task-based approach to monitoring agent activity, presenting you with essential artifacts and verification results to build trust." The whole thing around "trust" is really weird. Why would I as a user care about that? It's not as if LLMs are perfect oracles and the only thing between us and a brave new world is blind trust in whatever the LLM outputs.

I'd say that because right now, verifying the LLM output (meaning: not trusting it) is a huge bottleneck (rightfully so). I guess they are trying to convince people that this bottleneck is no more, with this IDE.

Re: Google Antigravity

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Post by flipgimble »

vecter wrote: post #471
evandrofisico wrote: post #261

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Most of the AI products are not for the end user, they are just signaling shareholders and possible investors that the company is on the hype.

This kind of cynicism is wild to me. Of course most AI products (and products in general) are for end users. Especially for a company like Google--they need to do everything they can to win the AI wars, and that means winning adoption for their AI models.

http://killedbygoogle.com/ - most Google products are for the temporary career advancement of some exec or product lead.

Their only real product is advertising, everything else is a pretense to capture users attention and behaviors that they can auction off.

Re: Google Antigravity

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Post by catlover76 »

AstroBen wrote: post #611
catlover76 wrote: post #566

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At best, that's subjective, but it's fact that JetBrains is comically far behind when it comes to AI tooling. They have a chance to compete fresh with Fleet, but they are not making progress on even the basic IDE there, let alone getting anywhere near Cursor when it comes to LLM integration.

JetBrains' advantage is that they have full integration and better understanding of your code. WebStorm works better with TypeScript than even Microsoft's own creation. This all translates into AI performance Have you actually given them a real test yet - either Junie or even the baseline chat?

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Re: Google Antigravity

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Post by phantasmish »

bitpush wrote: post #689
phantasmish wrote: post #105

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Google likes to fuck with basic browser functionality for some reason. Scrolling, sometimes also how “click” intents through touch are triggered (that is, using js listeners for touch events instead of watching for the browser to communicate a “click” on an element; this does usability-killing shit like make a touch-to-stop-scrolling get interpreted as a click on whatever happens to be under your finger). I have no i…

> Google likes to fuck with basic browser functionality for some reason. Apple is the worst offender here. Their product pages are always sluggish.

Yeah, though with theirs I can usually see why they did it (even if I’d rather they didn’t). Google’s MO is messing with scrolling for what often appears to be no user-facing reason at all.

Re: Google Antigravity

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Post by myhf »

femiagbabiaka wrote: post #208
kUdtiHaEX wrote: post #107

2020: every day a new JS framework is announced 2024: every day a new Chrome fork browser is announced 2025: every day a new AI IDE vscode fork is announced

2020: every day a new electron fork is announced 2024: every day a new electron fork is announced 2025: every day a new electron fork is announced

There's only one electron. It looks like separate ones because it's traveling backwards and forwards in time.
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