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Zohran Mamdani wins the New York mayoral race

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Post by lotsofpulp »

_heimdall wrote: post #697
xivzgrev wrote: post #415

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I'll give you one reason, among many, it wasn't a failure. It made it illegal to deny people health insurance coverage based on pre existing conditions. That was a big step forward in a broken system to restore some humanity to the system.

Had the ACA gone further and actually provided a single payer system, I'd consider the block on denials based on preexisting conditions a win. As it is we have a system of private "insurance" that can't consider the risk level of those being insured. All that means is the companies charge everyone else more to subsidize the cost of those who are more at risk. That bastardizes the whole point of private insurance. I d…

>Had the ACA gone further and actually provided a single payer system, I'd consider the block on denials based on preexisting conditions a win.

Your other option was to continue as things were, with fewer people getting less healthcare. Would that have been more of a win?

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Post by mothballed »

ikety wrote: post #675
ch4s3 wrote: post #320

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State liquor stores are terrible, and I’ve never heard anyone say a nice word about on base grocery stores.

Highly disagree. The commissary on most military bases are awesome. Spent most of my life going there with my parents. Not sure where you heard they were bad. Never got that impression from any military serving people, like ever.

Now imagine how the commissary would turn out if instead of being placed in a spot where any commercial business would love to exploit (center of military base where every family has employment, a process for permanently kicking out people who engage in major crime, and private competition controlled unless you go through a security checkpoint) -- instead you put them in many of the places I witnessed food deserts in major US cities that had underemployment, elevated crime, outsiders afraid to enter during the day and ~never enter at night, bars on every window, and every other establishment has you slide your cash in a rotating tray adjacent to a bulletproof window.

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Post by lotsofpulp »

thunky wrote: post #720
noir_lord wrote: post #597

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That has in part become the issue in modern politics, any compromise no matter how minor is seen as a loss. Neither sides most ardent supporters was willing to accept anything that looked like a compromise and so you end up with things as they are now, with someone where compromise shouldn’t happen because there is no practical compromise. US politics has collapsed down to the scorpion and the frog.

> That has in part become the issue in modern politics, any compromise no matter how minor is seen as a loss. Because to those who are now getting hit with huge insurance bills as a direct effect of that compromise, and may have to go without insurance at all, it is a loss. And nothing has been done to address the underlying reasons and bad incentives that have led to this outcome. Which is also a failure.

>Because to those who are now getting hit with huge insurance bills as a direct effect of that compromise, and may have to go without insurance at all, it is a loss.

Because the Republicans slashed the premium tax credits to pay for tax cuts for rich people.

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Post by bdangubic »

johnnyanmac wrote: post #636
bdangubic wrote: post #175

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works in NYC but in swing states “zohran is a commie” will hum along nicely enough…

Why does Ohio care about who's mayor in New York City? Do people realize that a city mayor is one or two levels under a state govenor?

exactly this - the GOP is sooooooooooo good at this that there isn’t single GOP politician who didn’t publicly go off against Zohran… can’t have these crazy ideas that people can have nice things :)

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Post by lotsofpulp »

PyWoody wrote: post #708
ch4s3 wrote: post #320

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State liquor stores are terrible, and I’ve never heard anyone say a nice word about on base grocery stores.

I love my state liquor stores. The staff are treated and paid well, the stores are well stocked and clean, and I pay tax free on some of the lowest prices in the country.

But why? Liquor is the cause for a very high portion of police, insurance (property and health), and other costs that can’t be translated into dollars.

Why shouldn’t society recoup some of those costs from the users? And why should society subsidize those costs?

It’s interesting that it was politically acceptable to charge tobacco users more for health insurance, but not politically acceptable to charge alcohol users more for health insurance.

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Post by grvdrm »

julianozen wrote: post #130
TheAceOfHearts wrote: post #117

I'm noticing that this election result has made a lot of people I know really hopeful. It's apparent that many people are fed up with the status quo so they're pushing towards more experimental candidates. If anyone here is well-read on his policies and they have specific opinions I'd love to hear what you think. Do you think Zohran will be successful with his agenda or will he get blocked by pushback from other poli…

Hi I don’t think I like several of his ideas or think he will get most of them passed. In fact I think a few like “freezing the rent” are actively bad But I’m happy to finally have a politician who lives in and loves New York and is earnestly trying to my the city better. If he tries and fails, it will be better than our other politicians that have stopped trying

Exactly.

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Post by tim333 »

pjc50 wrote: post #588
octaane wrote: post #73

You guys have it all wrong. There was only one candidate for the dem party, Here's the list: 1) Cuomo. Sexpest who has been accused by many women of some pretty shitty stuff. Also a member of a multi-generational dynasty, which is not good. 2) Mayor Adams. Federally indicted by the Feds. They have a 99% conviction rate. Not because they're corrupt, but because they only go after people who have dome some really egreg…

As a Brit who has been exposed to the blanket coverage of this on social media: Mamdani is going to be like Sadiq Khan. Popular with people in the city, while those outside run endless weird fantasy "news" scare stories because he's a Muslim.

I'm a Londoner who voted for Khan. There's a difference in that contrary to all the scapegoat stuff in the right wing press, Khan has had largely sensible middle of of the road policies. And where he has deviated from the average, on air pollution, it's been stuff I'm in favour of - I have desire to get sick/die from that.

Mamdani seems like a nice guy but some of his policies seem a bit bonkers - state owned retail outlets and the like.

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Post by tim333 »

pjc50 wrote: post #703
jpfromlondon wrote: post #672

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as a proud Londoner I'd like to see him held accountable for his own lies and questionable behaviour.

.. such as? Compared to previous mayor Boris Johnson?

Yeah likewise interested as a Londoner.

The thing that annoys me the most is that by scapegoating Khan they avoid fixing the problems that are the responsibility of others. Like knife crime - the tories cut 1/3 of the police force, crime went up in London but also in the rest of the country but the papers are all lets slag Kahn for it which is jolly fun I guess but doesn't stop the stabbings and phone snatchings in a way that the central government which controls the laws and budgets could do.

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Post by nine_zeros »

add-sub-mul-div wrote: post #221
nine_zeros wrote: post #12

While I don't 100% agree with his policies, I cannot be more excited for someone completely opposite of the corrupt establishment Republicans and Democrats. I was sold when he was willing to back down on some of his own views publicly, admitting publicly that he was wrong on some things. That kind of admission and honesty is so refreshing. Complete opposite of Trump, MAGA, and constant lies. Kudos NYC! Time for a new…

There's never been a dumber time in history to claim that Republicans and Democrats are comparable.

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Post by UncleMeat »

jrm4 wrote: post #358
nialv7 wrote: post #106

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I kinda feel Obama is more of a Trojan horse. It was not he tried and failed to get what he campaigned for implemented, it was more like he did a U turn after he got elected. e.g. he called for universal health care but once he was elected he started saying it was "too radical". I hope the same doesn't happen with Zohran. If he was going to fail after all, I wish that will at least be after he had fought as hard as h…

I genuinely can't believe, still, that I have to spell this out for people. Obama did not do a U-turn . It is the worst naivete to think that what happened was "he had big ideas and he changed his mind." He had to bring up big ideas to get elected, and then he got elected the first Black president and some of you seem entirely too dense to actually grasp what that means. President. Not King. Subject to all of those c…

Other people have mentioned mass surveillance and other ways that Obama expanded the law enforcement power of the federal government, but I'll add another thing.

Based on Rahm Emanuel's advice, the Obama administration did not focus political capital on the federal judiciary. Not only did Obama fail to get RBG to retire when she could be confidently replaced by a liberal, he didn't take judicial placements in the lower courts as seriously as he should have. The courts are substantial part of how we got here.

Yes, Obama was not a king. But there was stuff he absolutely could have done, especially during his first two years when he had the trifecta, that he didn't take seriously.

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