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Re: Claude Sonnet 4.5

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we at agentsea.com have been playing with it for a while.

here's what we think about it:

- still sucks at generating pretty ui - great for creative writing and long-form planning - it’s really fast but not smarter than gpt-5 - pairs well with external tools/agents for research and automation - comes with a 1m token context window, so you can feed it monstrous codebases or giant docs - still hallucinates or stumbles on complex requests

Re: Claude Sonnet 4.5

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> I worry everyone is chasing benchmarks to the detriment of general performance. I’m not sure this is entirely what you’re driving at, but the example I always think of in my head is “I want an AI agent that will scan through my 20 to 30,000 photos, remove all the duplicates, then organize them all in some coherent fashion.” that’s the kind of service I need right now, and it feels like something AI should be able t…

azure vision / "cognitive services" can do this for literally a few bucks am i even on hacker news? how do people not know there are optimized models for specific use cases? not everything (nor should it) has to run through an LLM https://azure.microsoft.com/en-us/pricing/details/cognitive-...

This is hardly the fluid, turn key solution I am talking about, so I don’t know why you’re talking like this to me and acting like the answer is so obvious. Frankly your tone was rude and unnecessary. Not everyone on HN shares the same knowledge and experience about all the same subjects, let alone all the ones you expect all of us to know.

Re: Claude Sonnet 4.5

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I'm not trying to be offensive here, feel the need to indicate that. But that prompt leads me to believe that you're going to get rather 'random' results due to leaving SO much room for interpretation. Also, in my experience, punctuation is important - particularly for pacing and grouping of logical 'parts' of a task and your prompt reads like a run on sentence. Making a lot of assumptions here - but I bet if I were…

This would explain the LLM implementing the feature in a way you didn't prefer. But this does not explain why Sonnet would deliver a broken implementation that does not work in even the most basic sense. Also, there is a threshold in which the time it takes to develop a prompt, allow the agent to run, review its output, and go through iterative loops to correct errors or implementation problems, can exceed the time i…

> But this does not explain why Sonnet would deliver a broken implementation that does not work in even the most basic sense.

Depends not just on prompt but also the tooling / environment you use. Somebody using Claude Code CLI may get a totally different experience then somebody using CoPilot via VSC.

What do i mean by that? Look at how Copilot tries to save money by reading content only in small parts. Reading file X line 1-50, X line 51-100, ... And it starts working with this. Only if it finds a hint about something somewhere else, it will read in more context.

What i often see is that it misses context because it reads in so limited information and if there is no hint in your code or code doc, it will stop there. Try to run a local test on the code, passes, done... While it technically broke your application.

Example: If i tell it to refactor a API, it never checks if that API is used anywhere else because it only reads in that API code. So i need to manually add to the prompt to remind it, "the API is used in the system". And then it does its searching /... Found 5 files, Read X line 1...

And plop, good working code ... So if you know this limitation, you can go very far with a basic $10 CoPilot Claude Agent usage.

Where as a $200 Claude Code will give you a better experience out of the door, as it reads in a ton more. The same applies to GPT-5/Codex, what seems to be more willing to read in larger context of your project, thus resulting in less incomplete code.

This is just anecdotal from my point of view, but like with any LLM, hinting matters a lot. Its less about writing a full prompt with a ton of text but just including the right "do not forget about function name X, and module Y, and test Z". And Claude loves it hints on CoPilot because of that limited reading.

Re: Claude Sonnet 4.5

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it looks like its already there

It’s stupid… like just have a registry of models and let people automatically use them. It’s silly to wait for manual whitelisting each time for every app

I agree, I use Windsurf for personal projects and I think the pricing model is a bit better than what a professional dev would be using on cursor or something like that.

Re: Claude Sonnet 4.5

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> Practically speaking, we’ve observed it maintaining focus for more than 30 hours on complex, multi-step tasks. Really curious about this since people keep bringing it up on Twitter. They mention it pretty much off-handedly in their press release and doesn't show up at all in their system card. It's only through an article on The Verge that we get more context. Apparently they told it to build a Slack clone and left…

Interestingly the internet is full of "slack clone" dev tutorials. I used to work for a company that provides chat backend/frontend components as a service. It was one of their go-to examples, and the same is true for their competitors.

While it's impressive that you can now just have an llm build this, I wouldn't be surprised if the result of these 30 hours is essentially just a re-hash of one of those example Slack clones. Especially since all of these models have internet access nowadays; I honestly think 30 hours isn't even that fast for something like this, where you can realistically follow a tutorial and have it done.

In fact, I just did a quick google search and found this 15 hour course about building a slack clone: https://www.codewithantonio.com/projects/slack-clone

Re: Claude Sonnet 4.5

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What about Grok, are they catching up?

I've only tried Grok Code Fast 1, so I can't speak for any of the other models. In my experience, Grok is very fast and very cheap, but only moderately intelligent. It isn't stupid, but it rarely does anything that impresses me. The reason it's a useful model is that it is very, very fast (~90 tokens per second) and is very competitively priced.

You should try cerebras with qwen. 2000 tokens/sec. It’s like chatting with the future usually- just an instant response.

Re: Claude Sonnet 4.5

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I need to try Claude - haven't gotten to it. I use AI for different things, though, including proofreading posts on political topics. I have run into situations where ChatGPT just freezes and refuses. Example: discussing the recent rape case involving a 12-year-old in Austria. I assume its guardrails detect "sex + kid" and give a hard "no" regardless of the actual context or content. That is unacceptable. That's like…

In my (admittedly very limited) experience with trying to talk about "controversial" topics, Claude seems to be much stricter about shutting down the conversation fast.

That’s because Anthropic is the only company that cares at all about AI safety.

Re: Claude Sonnet 4.5

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I had access to a preview over the weekend, I published some notes here: https://simonwillison.net/2025/Sep/29/claude-sonnet-4-5/ It's very good - I think probably a tiny bit better than GPT-5-Codex, based on vibes more than a comprehensive comparison (there are plenty of benchmarks out there that attempt to be more methodical than vibes). It particularly shines when you try it on https://claude.ai/ using its brand n…

Kinda pointless listening to the opinions of people who've used previews because it's not gonna be the same model you'll experience once it gets downgraded to be viable under mass use and the benchmarks influencers use are all in the training data now and tested internally so any sort of testing like pelicans on bikes is just PR at this point.

Yeah I remember these GPT-5 demos from influencers like "it practically created a whole 3D modeller for me" and then once we got the real thing it sometimes looked like a dumbed down version of the previous iteration.

Re: Claude Sonnet 4.5

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I need to try Claude - haven't gotten to it. I use AI for different things, though, including proofreading posts on political topics. I have run into situations where ChatGPT just freezes and refuses. Example: discussing the recent rape case involving a 12-year-old in Austria. I assume its guardrails detect "sex + kid" and give a hard "no" regardless of the actual context or content. That is unacceptable. That's like…

The workaround I use is to present it to the AI first as a “Does the following article violate your terms of service or content filters?” For me, it will reply “No, this is a legitimate news article about xyz. It talks about certain topics but does not violate my rules” or something. Then you can say “Proofread the article…” and continue as normal.

Re: Claude Sonnet 4.5

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I need to try Claude - haven't gotten to it. I use AI for different things, though, including proofreading posts on political topics. I have run into situations where ChatGPT just freezes and refuses. Example: discussing the recent rape case involving a 12-year-old in Austria. I assume its guardrails detect "sex + kid" and give a hard "no" regardless of the actual context or content. That is unacceptable. That's like…

This is why eventually, the AI with the fewest guardrails will win. Grok is currently the most unguarded of the frontier models, but it could still use some work on unbiased responses.

Doesn't it have the opposite issue where it will actively steer you towards alt right topics like white genocide?
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