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Re: Delete FROM users WHERE location = 'Iran';

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Post by lazide »

542354234235 wrote: post #714
lazide wrote: post #596

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I’m not saying the sanctions haven’t hurt, rather that when the war was at its decisive point (the first few days) they did not exist/were immaterial. Now they’re just doing more damage in an already damaging (and unwinnable) situation.

I have seen no serious analysis saying that Russia losing the war has been basically inevitable since the first few weeks of the war. Russia is fighting a war of attrition now and has been for most of the war. Most analysis still assess Russia can attrite it's way to victory. Sanctions are important because even if Putin is willing to throw wave after wave of his own men to the slaughter (a million Russian casualties…

Russia is hollowing out its male population which was already under severe strain.

Even if Russia ‘wins’ the Ukraine war (takes all Ukrainian territory), it’s even more fucked than when it started demographically.

It’s also spent pretty much all of it’s currency reserves and destroyed it’s normal economy destroying all that ‘new’ land in a way it will be incredibly hostile to productive use for a generation+. Not counting insurgencies and rebellions.

The well is solidly poisoned, regardless of who ends up owning it.

Re: Delete FROM users WHERE location = 'Iran';

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Post by breppp »

johnisgood wrote: post #720
breppp wrote: post #702

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A New York Times investigation by C.J. Chivers revealed that the dismantlement of Iraq’s CW program was not as clear-cut as originally thought. The investigation revealed that approximately 5,000 chemical warheads, shells, or aviation bombs were recovered following the 2003 Iraq war. [15] Although all of these munitions were produced before 1991, they did pose serious hazards; at least 17 American soldiers and seven…

Gotta save face so they could say the war was justified. No news here. I will never know the truth, and nor will you.

Let me summarize: 5,000 chemical warheads were found in Iraq after the war according to the New York Times, backed by video testimonials and documents. Also, ISIS stole part of the Iraqi chemical stockpile and used it against the Kurds.

Sounds to me like there was a huge misconception that no WMDs had been found in Iraq

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2014/10/14/world/middlee...

Re: Delete FROM users WHERE location = 'Iran';

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Post by 542354234235 »

lazide wrote: post #721
542354234235 wrote: post #714

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I have seen no serious analysis saying that Russia losing the war has been basically inevitable since the first few weeks of the war. Russia is fighting a war of attrition now and has been for most of the war. Most analysis still assess Russia can attrite it's way to victory. Sanctions are important because even if Putin is willing to throw wave after wave of his own men to the slaughter (a million Russian casualties…

Russia is hollowing out its male population which was already under severe strain. Even if Russia ‘wins’ the Ukraine war (takes all Ukrainian territory), it’s even more fucked than when it started demographically. It’s also spent pretty much all of it’s currency reserves and destroyed it’s normal economy destroying all that ‘new’ land in a way it will be incredibly hostile to productive use for a generation+. Not cou…

Also known as a pyrrhic victory. Russia winning the war and Russia coming out on top, or coming out better than it started, are not the same thing.

Re: Delete FROM users WHERE location = 'Iran';

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Post by lazide »

dh2022 wrote: post #661
lazide wrote: post #596

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I’m not saying the sanctions haven’t hurt, rather that when the war was at its decisive point (the first few days) they did not exist/were immaterial. Now they’re just doing more damage in an already damaging (and unwinnable) situation.

The biggest sanctions were adopted after the war started (and then the West kept piling up new sanctions every few months). Are you suggesting the West should have put these harsh sanctions before the war? My recollection of Dec 2021 and Jan/Feb 2022 were that the West was trying to avoid inciting the crazy Russian dictator: Biden had two tele conferences with Putin in December, there were three meetings in Jan (OSCE…

The west is screwed too, because Russia is (and has been) doing everything it can to poison that well too - and widely succeeding.

Or do you think all this authoritarianism sprouting everything is just random coincidence?

It’s classic crabs in a bucket, which Russia has always been good at.

Re: Delete FROM users WHERE location = 'Iran';

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Post by mfiro »

michalpleban wrote: post #340

Living in Europe, I don't give a damn about US sanctions. However, I block traffic from Iran on all my servers for the simple reason that almost all attacks on my website (and if you run a semi-popular website, you get attacked on a daily basis) come from Iran, Russia or China. I am very sorry that this kind of action affects you personally, as I am sure you have nothing to do with these attacks. However, filtering o…

One of my coworkers, a network specialist, compares IP restrictions to a garden fence. They’re enough to stop casual passersby, but anyone determined will find a way over or around it.

Re: Delete FROM users WHERE location = 'Iran';

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Post by dh2022 »

lazide wrote: post #719
dh2022 wrote: post #634

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How can Russia be economically stronger under sanctions? Before the war they were able to manufacture some goods (Volkswagen had a couple of factories. I think Unilever was making some washers/ dryers). This is all replaced by manufacturing of some weapons (which proven themselves so shitty in the war that no outside buyers want to buy them). Russia went from selling their oil on the world market at competitive price…

It depends entirely on what you mean by ‘strength’, and ‘better’. Russia is ramping up its military industrial complex like no one’s business, for instance. Manufacturing in general, actually. Something which had essentially collapsed previously. Also, mining and other resource extraction - they’re necessarily rebuilding domestic production and becoming more independent.

Well, yeah, sure, they are building lots of shitty weapons. Meanwhile they cannot take over an adversary a third of its size. About resource extraction - the West stopped giving Russia extraction technology. Which means Russia is coasting on what they had up to 2022. Meaning in a few years Russia will do what it did in the 70s: over-extract its most productive fields. To see how that movie ended read Gaidar's Collapse of an Empire.

Re: Delete FROM users WHERE location = 'Iran';

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Post by nmilo »

Ajedi32 wrote: post #679
nmilo wrote: post #655

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This the exact same as the email from the post, but the other way around. Either both normal Iranians are responsible for arming Russians and normal Americans are responsible for sanctions, or neither are. In general I don’t like blaming people for the actions of their government.

The US is a democracy, so Americans are, at least on a collective level, responsible for the actions of their government, though not on an individual level of course. Iran is a theocratic autocracy. Only the autocrat and his supporters bear any significant responsibility for the actions of the government there.

In theory sure but in practice not really and to say regular citizens have a direct say in specific geopolitical decisions is absurd, given how unpopular many recent decisions have been.

Re: Delete FROM users WHERE location = 'Iran';

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Post by ronsor »

phendrenad2 wrote: post #658
squigz wrote: post #419

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It would be interesting to see someone try to use the Internet while blocking all American IPs

You mean like the entire country of China?

China has local bootlegs, err... alternatives. Most countries don't have that.

Re: Delete FROM users WHERE location = 'Iran';

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Post by 1718627440 »

olelele wrote: post #406
1718627440 wrote: post #124

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The bombing of Nazi Germany in return had the same effect. Due you think people will flock to an enemy, that bombs them every night? No, they will put all their strength into trying to prevent the bombs from falling down in the first place.

As did the bombings of North Korea, Vietnam, Cambodia and Laos.

And now probably in Gaza.
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