We used to have a social credit system called, "social democracy" but it was destroyed when we poisoned the educational system.
We already live in social credit, we just don't call it that
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Re: We already live in social credit, we just don't call it that
#722Earlier quoted context omitted.
> Day to day life has been more or less the same across all of them. This is a wild take, unless you mean that in thw sense of wake up, eat, work and sleep kind of way. If I call the prime minister a criminal liar - worst that will happen is I get a defamation lawsuit. In authoritarian countries I go to a prison camp, and the neighbors are the one to report me. Even if I'm not political - if step on toes of people in…
What would happen if you deeply insulted a cop at night during a routine check ? What would be the impact on your life of publicly calling names your company's CEO on social media ? You make it sound like a defamation lawsuit is peanuts, when you'd probably be fighting against an army of lawyer while you're unemployed, if you're in the US that definitely sounds like a life defining event. I also wonder if most author…
In the US you wouldn't even be subject to a defamation lawsuit in the first place. Such a thing is strictly un-American, we have every right to insult mock and insult our elected officials.
Re: We already live in social credit, we just don't call it that
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> Day to day life has been more or less the same across all of them. This is a wild take, unless you mean that in thw sense of wake up, eat, work and sleep kind of way. If I call the prime minister a criminal liar - worst that will happen is I get a defamation lawsuit. In authoritarian countries I go to a prison camp, and the neighbors are the one to report me. Even if I'm not political - if step on toes of people in…
>unless you mean that in thw sense of wake up, eat, work and sleep kind of way. this is what 99% of people spend 99% of their time on. If you give most people the choice between a place that has jobs, clean trains and where women can walk safely at night and one that looks like the Purge but you can insult the prime minister we can make a bet how people will vote with their feet. This is why China makes the claim tha…
"f you give most people the choice between a place that has jobs, clean trains and where women can walk safely at night and one that looks like the Purge but you can insult the prime minister we can make a bet how people will vote with their feet."
Why do we need to choose? Countries that have both exist.
Re: We already live in social credit, we just don't call it that
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No. Landlords for example cannot request that information.
Actually same in Sweden. I never thought about it until now. It's mostly for luxury items and services that they request credit checks. Of course a landlord can still request you send in proof of employment and your salary specification.
meanwhile in some other EU country, they even want to see your income check from a official document. Funny.
Re: We already live in social credit, we just don't call it that
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It sure is good being a foreigner in an autocratic country. You are most likely there there for business. You don’t really care about anything because you will leave anyway. Most of my coworkers in Singapore were all like that. Who cares about the mass deportation of bus drivers after their strikes for better working condition? Why look at what’s behind the curtain when you can enjoy the pool? I have met people who h…
I'll respond to this one, as it's at the top and it started off unpleasantly personal. Do try and avoid making assumptions about the person you're speaking to, please. I live in a post-Soviet country taking an autocratic turn, I have friends fleeing. I will probably have to leave myself and it's making me miserable. I do not mean to diminish their experience or the experience of anyone suffering under an authoritaria…
It doesn't matter to these people. They are so drunk on their feelings of superiority that they'll dismiss anyone with first-hand experience as an "apologist", a "foreigner" or whatever. They need to perform these mental gymnastics because they've been told all their life that "liberal democracy" is perfect, and anyone who challenges this notion is somehow deficient. To even consider a different point of view would bring their entire worldview crashing down, and so they will twist and turn your every word against you.
Re: We already live in social credit, we just don't call it that
#726Earlier quoted context omitted.
Yeah, automation and information sharing prevents people slipping through the cracks, and that also prevents leniency, diversity, and reason. I was musing over something, though. We have creeping Orwellian things like face recognition and the policing of chat histories. But some of this is private, as in, not done by the state. Even when done by the state, it isn't in most places to prop up the regime and prevent dis…
> It's big brother mechanisms without a Big Brother. Big Brother does exist: it's money. If there were some single named entity, people would rebel against it, so it's diluted and realized through financialization of one's interactions with other humans. Big Brother is invisible to individuals because it's us , and no individual thinks “I'm Big Brother” when it's their point of view looking out. It's an illusion that…
What is the significance of the half-erased numbers in the sand? (You seem to imply it's a hidden message?) What is "rootα" (root alpha?)?
Re: We already live in social credit, we just don't call it that
#727This is a great article. It reminds me of a discussion I had about Russia; in Russia (and China) you are essentially told what you are not allowed to discuss freely... In the west, you are told that you can discuss anything but, in reality, the consequences for discussing certain topics are significant... You only find out once you start using your so-called 'free speech'. In the west, 'free-speech' isn't free at all…
It's crazy right? We've reached a threshold were even basic anti-war activism is de facto prohibited. In the UK, acting or even PROTESTING against the war machinery will get you jailed for 15 years if not deported.
Have you any reasoning for saying 15 years ? I read the article, the number 15 isn't even mentioned.
Edit : It's you again, no need to tell you to ignore my question.