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I feel too many people conflate /pol/ with the whole website. I enjoyed browsing through sfw boards like /tg/ (tabletop media), /ck/ (cooking) and /fit/ (fitness). I had long discussions about the SW sequels on /tv/ back in 2015-19. The readership was surprisingly diverse and the anonymity lead users to provide more focused replies. With bodybuilding.com gone, the blue boards felt like the last bastion of the old int…

It's interesting to note the popularity of the website, and the massive traffic it handled, despite the lack of everything we assume necessary for a modern (social media) website - no modern web frameworks - no microservices/kubernetes clusters - no algorithmic curation/moderation/recommendation algoritmhs One wonders just how much of the modern engineering developed in the past decades, that cost a fortune to develo…

I think no algorithmic curation is its strength. It means that even if an echo chamber appears anybody can still post their opinion and it doesn't get downvoted into oblivion when people disagree.

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"I really don't understand why people would think X" is another example but I think there may be some expression of non-understanding. "So retarted it doesnt make sense." Similar, "are you a n*zi" never seen here but as a simple but clever "Could you elaborate?" often as a reply to a polite but ambiguous comment. It's basically bait for the ambiguous commenter to confirm or deny the morality of their comment.

"genuinely curious" is the new one I see everywhere lately.

"Genuinely curious" or "honest question" are the internet equivalent of "don't shoot, I'm coming out with my hands up". The disclaimer people feel the need to put so they don't catch a bullet for no good reason, when most internet forums are filled to the brim with trigger happy people with itchy fingers and immunity from consequences (barring a few reputation points).

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Speaking of the meta-realm, I've always wondered how messages in forum flamewars always seemed to gravitate toward a very specific pattern: You see this pattern all over the Internet. For example, from that bodybuilding.com thread: Are you retarded? [personal insult] Maybe you should look at a calander, I didn't double count sunday, my two weeks started and ended on sunday, exactly 14 days. [the point] What don't you…

There's a related, more polite version of "are you retarded" which is not uncommon even here on HN. It is "I'm confused" . I don't know whether it's a phrase that I'm over analysing, but it always comes across as disingenuous to me. The responder is never actually confused, they have a question that they should just ask.

Uh... I use "I'm confused" a lot. Because often I am confused! Someone said something that didn't make sense given what I know.

It divides fairly evenly (I think, being generous to myself here) between:

Yep, something I thought was true was not true.

Something they said was wrong, or they omitted something without which their meaning was ambiguous.

Maybe a smattering of "I/they misparsed what was said" too. But really. Often I'm just confused. When I use it I definitely don't mean they're an idiot I just worry that they'll think I'm an idiot... (...and that they might be right.)

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> These numbers helped me deduce that many boards' most infamous personalities were all the same guy. Simultaneously one of the best and worst parts about the website was how much a single person could create influence. Some guy spamposting "30-year old boomer" memes eventually turned boomer and zoomer into mainstream terminology. I remember a long time ago, a general that I would frequent attracted the attention of…

Milhouse is still not a meme.

That's true. But on the other hand, "Millhouse is not a meme" is in fact a meme.

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I'm not up to speed - but isn't that a free-speech absolutist site?

No, it's mostly a cancer survivors support group. Every third post was about cancer, what is causing it, and frank expressions of helplessness in the face of it. About half the posts were pornography, racist rants, or memes making fun of someone, often for being mentally handicapped. Five percent was accusing the moderators of sleeping on the job. Edit: I love that people are down-voting this, it really shows how muc…

My understanding is the cancer was mostly killing bees.

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I feel too many people conflate /pol/ with the whole website. I enjoyed browsing through sfw boards like /tg/ (tabletop media), /ck/ (cooking) and /fit/ (fitness). I had long discussions about the SW sequels on /tv/ back in 2015-19. The readership was surprisingly diverse and the anonymity lead users to provide more focused replies. With bodybuilding.com gone, the blue boards felt like the last bastion of the old int…

It's interesting to note the popularity of the website, and the massive traffic it handled, despite the lack of everything we assume necessary for a modern (social media) website - no modern web frameworks - no microservices/kubernetes clusters - no algorithmic curation/moderation/recommendation algoritmhs One wonders just how much of the modern engineering developed in the past decades, that cost a fortune to develo…

Nobody that is over 30 thinks any of those things are necessary because we all remember them not existing and websites handling plenty of traffic fine.

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Pepe the frog became associated with the online far right because it was a commonly used memetic avatar in general 4chan culture, and became intertwined with the space's shift to the political right in a fairly organic way. The association was boosted by (IIRC) the 2016 Clinton campaign's assertion that it was a far-right symbol, which was obviously embraced by those people as a sort of irreverent statement. Likewise…

>actually existing connection between the far right and the "ok" gesture but it really came about as an association that was imposed by the media and subsequently embraced by that community There wasn't any connection. You are running things in reverse. There was an explicit concerted effort to 'take it over'. With celebrations when it succeeded as the media to the bait.

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As far as I can tell, no real maintenance has happened since Poole sold the site a decade ago. Hiroyuki paid for it and then mostly forgot about it.

Nishimura for most part become a Japanese public personality - he has wrote for Japanese tabloids and has a YT channel.

This in general is the main factor of the decline of the "old web". Many of the people who drove it, who run these forums, are simply happier running a substack, a subreddit, a facebook group, without worrying about servers.
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