I don’t think “AI” as a market is “winner-takes-anything”. Seriously. AI is not a product, it’s a tool for building other products. The winners will be other businesses that use AI tooling to make better products. Does OpenAI really make sense as a chatbot company?
> AI is not a product, it’s a tool for building other products. Its products like this (Wells Fargo): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Akmga7X9zyg Great Wells Fargo has an "agent" ... and every one else is talking about how to make their products available for agent based AI. People don't want 47 different agents to talk to, then want a single end point, they want a "personal assistant" in digital form, a virtual conc…
Why can't we have personal assistants because the open web has been dead?
I'll be happy with a personal assistant with access to my paid APIs.
The best user experience for what? The most practical use case for generative AI today is coding assistants, and if you look at that market, the best offerings are third-party IDEs that build on top of models they don't own. E.g. Cursor + Gemini 2.5. On the model front, it used to be the case that other companies were playing catch-up with OpenAI. I was one of the people consistently pointing out that "better than GP…
so please enlighten us why OpenAI is doing so much better than Anthropic
At this point it's pretty much entirely the first mover advantage.
The best user experience for what? The most practical use case for generative AI today is coding assistants, and if you look at that market, the best offerings are third-party IDEs that build on top of models they don't own. E.g. Cursor + Gemini 2.5. On the model front, it used to be the case that other companies were playing catch-up with OpenAI. I was one of the people consistently pointing out that "better than GP…
>The best user experience for what? The app has more features than anyone else, often implemented the smoothest/best way. Image Input (which the gemini site still sucks at even though the model itself is very capable), Voice mode (which used to be much worse in gemini until recently), Advanced Voice mode (no-one else has really implemented this yet. Gemini recently enabled native audio-in but not out), Live Video, Im…
How many of those weekly active users are paying users, though?
The demand is there. People are already becoming addicted to this stuff.
For many, this stuff is mostly about copilot being shoved down everyone's throats via ms office obnoxious ads and distractions, and I haven't yet heard of anyone liking it or perceiving it as an improvement. We are now years into this, so my bets are on the thing fading away slowly and becoming a taboo at Microsoft.
> I haven't yet heard of anyone liking it or perceiving it as an improvement.
Well I mean if you say it, then of course it MUST be true I’m sure.
For comparison, Uber is still not profitable after 15 years or so. Give it some time.
I'm surprised. They pay the drivers a pittance. My ex drove Uber for a while and it wasn't really worth it. Also, for the customers it's usually more expensive and slower than a normal taxi at least here in Spain. The original idea of ride-sharing made sense but just like airbnb it became an industry and got enshittified.
> Also, for the customers it's usually more expensive and slower than a normal taxi
For the reader. The AI won't tell the reader what to think in an authoritative voice. This is better than the AI trying to decide what is true and what isn't. However, the AI should be able to search the web and present it's findings without refusals. Obviously, always presenting the sources. And the AI should never use an authoritative tone and it should be transparent about the steps it took to gather the informati…
"If i never choose, I can never be wrong. Isnt that great?"
Please explain to me like I am stupid. If I want to use OpenAI models, I download ChatGPT app. What do I need to do to use Google's model? They have so mamy things called Gemini... I genuinely have no clue
https://aistudio.google.com/prompts/new_chat
thanks
edit: I get "internal erorr received: permission denied"... ok will try it later
Gemini 2.5 pro is as powerful as everybody says. I still also use Claude Sonnet 3.7 only because the Gemini web UI has issues... (Imagine creating the best AI and then not allowing to attach Python or C files if not renamed .txt) but the way the model is better than anyone else is a "that's another league" experience. They have the biggest search engine and YouTube to leverage the power of the AI they are developing.…
Instead of renaming files to .txt, you should try Gemini 2.5 pro through OpenRouter with roo, Cline or using Github Copilot. I've been testing GH Copilot [0] and it's been working really well. 0: https://github.blog/changelog/2025-04-11-copilot-chat-users-...
I know perfectly I can use the API with any wrapper. I don't do that for choice, my human+AI development style is in the form of the chat, and since I discovered that many models behave differently (especially Gemini 2.5) based on where you invoke them (I don't know what Google is doing internally, if they change temperature / context size / ...) I stick with using the default way a model is provided to the public by a given provider. Besides, while I write a lot of code with the assistance of AI, my use case is mainly code reviews, design verification / brainstorming, and so forth, not much "write this code for me" (not that I believe there is anything wrong with it, just a matter of preferences -- I do it for things like tests, or to have a template when the coding task is just library calls that are boring to put together: typical use case, "generate the boilerplate to load a JPEG file with libjpeg"). So I keep using the web chat :)
You really hit the nail on the head with trust. Knowing the power of these AIs and how absolutely little I trust Google, I’d never tell trust Gemini with the things I’ll say to ChatGPT.
Why do you think OpenAI is more trustworthy than Google?
I agree with GP. The reason is simple, business model.
Google’s main source of income, by far, is selling ads. Not just any ads but highly targeted ones, which means global digital surveillance is an essential part of their business model.