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Re: I'm the Canadian who was detained by ICE for two weeks

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Post by enoch_r » Wed, Mar 19, 2025, 9:47 PM UTC

consteval wrote: post #698

yusaythat wrote: post #677

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All of the boys in the swim club changed together. All the boys in middle school and high school sports changed together. As an adult, working out at gyms and rec centers, all the men change and shower and talk and joke butt naked. Half the YMCAs I've been to over the years have a group of old guys that will tease you for being shy. The high school swim team I was on was... wild, I guess I'll say. Not buying what you…

There are children who are transgender today and they're not changing in front of other's. I don't know where this delusional that dudes are just hanging brain around women is coming from. You're right, that doesn't happen. That's a conservative's wet dream. I'm sure you, and others, would be beyond ecstatic if transgender people were doing that. Maybe then, you'd have a smidge of justification for all this. For the…

> I don't know where this delusional that dudes are just hanging brain around women is coming from. You're right, that doesn't happen. That's a conservative's wet dream. I'm sure you, and others, would be beyond ecstatic if transgender people were doing that. Maybe then, you'd have a smidge of justification for all this.

Me: "I want our society to allow businesses to prohibit people with penises from receiving certain services, for example a nude massage at a women-only spa."

You: "This is not happening, it's a conservative's wet dream, maybe if it were happening you'd have a smidge of justification for all this."

If it's not happening, why not allow businesses to prohibit it? Like, if no trans women want to hang out naked with natal women, is it a problem for Wi Spa or Olympus Spa or Archimedes Banya to say "as a nude facility that serves women, we are uncomfortable having phalluses on the premise"? Why are there protests and lawsuits and investigations when people implement these policies?

Do you personally think that those policies are objectionable? Do you think they should be illegal?

Re: I'm the Canadian who was detained by ICE for two weeks

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Post by ikerrin1 » Wed, Mar 19, 2025, 9:47 PM UTC

blindriver wrote: post #44

snapcaster wrote: post #3

This is horrible and scary, why border guards are even giving the authority to revoke visas is beyond me. When people think about giving cops/guards authority like this they need to be picturing the dumbest bully from their grade school. That's who is going to be using the power

Every country is like this. Israel is the scariest but I remember decades ago crossing into Switzerland by train and in the middle of the night being woken up by border guards with barking German shepherds asking for my passport. I have so many stories it’s funny. On top of the other stories I’ve already posted, my friend who is Canadian drove into Buffalo for dinner and on his way back, they asked him where are you…

Canadian here. I recall in 1991 being woken by Swiss border guards in a train carriage full of Germans and Italians. After inspecting their passports they shined the light in my face. They saw my maple leaf on my bag and asked “Est-tu Canadian” bleary eyed I replied “oui” and they said,”it’s fine, we don’t need to see your passport”. Of course 9 years later I was thrown off a train to Czechoslovakia” because they changed the visa requirements at the last minute and my “Let’s Go” guidebook was out of date.

Oh being young, stupid and crossing boarders without a clue.

Re: I'm the Canadian who was detained by ICE for two weeks

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Post by comte7092 » Wed, Mar 19, 2025, 9:52 PM UTC

rayiner wrote: post #685

comte7092 wrote: post #638

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The conversation I engaged with was about people who are following the law. You are arguing against a point I never made here. I’d ask you what the point of having laws is if we are going to detain and deport people outside of the established legal process. This thread is in response to an individual who came here on a valid work visa.

From the article: > He claimed I also couldn’t work for a company in the US that made use of hemp – one of the beverage ingredients. He revoked my visa, and told me I could still work for the company from Canada, but if I wanted to return to the US, I would need to reapply. > I restarted the visa process and returned to the same immigration office at the San Diego border, since they had processed my visa before and I…

> So how did she find herself in U.S. custody with a revoked visa?

The original officer likely lacked the authority to actually revoke her visa:

https://fam.state.gov/fam/09FAM/09FAM040311.html

9 FAM 403.11-3(B) (U) When You May Not Revoke A Visa (CT:VISA-1463; 02-01-2022)

a. (U) You do not have the authority to revoke a visa based on a suspected ineligibility or based on derogatory information that is insufficient to support an ineligibility finding, other than a revocation based on driving under the influence (DUI). A consular revocation must be based on an actual finding that the individual is ineligible for the visa.

b. (U) Under no circumstances should you revoke a visa when the individual is in the United States, or after the individual has commenced an uninterrupted journey to the United States, other than a revocation based on driving under the influence (DUI). Outside of the DUI exception, revocations of individuals in, or en route to, the United States may only be done by the Department's Visa Office of Screening, Analysis, and Coordination (CA/VO/SAC).

Re: I'm the Canadian who was detained by ICE for two weeks

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Post by lawlessone » Wed, Mar 19, 2025, 9:55 PM UTC

helaoban wrote: post #547

Tostino wrote: post #381

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You think it's "reflexive hysteria" to be worried about fascism? Let me ask: when exactly would you recognize it? When would you "step in"? In Italy, would it be in 1919 when Mussolini founded his party? Or 1922 when he marched on Rome? Maybe 1924 when opposition leader Matteotti was murdered? Or 1926 when all other parties were banned? For Nazi Germany, was January 1933 when Hitler became Chancellor too early to wor…

Sigh, when will people stop reaching for Hitler / Mussolini analogies to explain every political development they witness in their lives? It really is a remarkable achievement by the propaganda departments of the victors of the 2nd world war that 80 years later this is still the only framework by which their citizens understand the world. History didn't start in 1918, and if you think the political situation in the U…

>Sigh, when will people stop reaching for Hitler / Mussolini analogies to explain every political development they witness in their lives?

They're currently transporting people to slave labor camps in El Salvador.. the analogy seems apt.

Re: I'm the Canadian who was detained by ICE for two weeks

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Post by wraaath » Wed, Mar 19, 2025, 9:55 PM UTC

g8oz wrote: post #641

blindriver wrote: post #471

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She tried to enter the country illegally and illegally apply for a work visa. 1) She co-founded a hemp drink company in California as a Canadian. "Jasmine Mooney, an actor who is also co-founder of the beverage brand Holy! Water, was detained on 3 March in San Diego, California." https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/mar/18/canadian-act... 2) She applied for a TN visa that was sponsored by her own company, which i…

>>Everything ICE and CBP did was lawful. That may be true but it's a pretty much a low bar....why the detention for 2 weeks? Why was she not allowed to fly home? Is cruelty the point?

Along with all of these Musk/Trump regime's antics, the cruelty is merely a feature, not a bug.

Re: I'm the Canadian who was detained by ICE for two weeks

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Post by realo » Wed, Mar 19, 2025, 10:03 PM UTC

bloopernova wrote: post #541

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Not sure if you read the whole article. But what REALLY scared me is not this women's experience, but the stories of the other people she met there: >I met a woman who had been on a road trip with her husband. She said they had 10-year work visas. While driving near the San Diego border, they mistakenly got into a lane leading to Mexico. They stopped and told the agent they didn’t have their passports on them, expect…

Make sure you have as much documentation as possible printed in triplicate. Where you're staying, for how long, receipts and booking confirmation. Be very careful with any text messages that might sound "shady" to the very paranoid customs people. Have an exact itinerary showing step by step where, when, who.

Ok... so if I understand you correctly, traveling to the US under the current regime is about the same as traveling to North Korea.

Thank you for the heads up.

Re: I'm the Canadian who was detained by ICE for two weeks

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Post by wezdog1 » Wed, Mar 19, 2025, 10:17 PM UTC

blindriver wrote: post #92

ssijak wrote: post #69

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"Switzerland by train and in the middle of the night being woken up by border guards with barking German shepherds asking for my passport" What is exactly wrong here? They checked your passport and went on their way, that is how it works.

Nothing wrong. The previous poster claimed that the US Border patrol was excessively scary but my point is this happens everywhere around the world.

Even if that were true it doesn't justify it.

Re: I'm the Canadian who was detained by ICE for two weeks

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Post by apwell23 » Wed, Mar 19, 2025, 10:21 PM UTC

jszymborski wrote: post #691

somedude895 wrote: post #555

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You're saying that you're not actually interested in discussing the post you're commenting on, you just want to use the comment section to rant. Got it.

No, they are saying that the minutiae doesn't impact their desire to not visit, as simply the threat of arbitrary incarceration is sufficient. It's in fact a sentiment shared by most Canadians if the sharp decrease of Canadian visits to the US approaching pandemic levels is anything to go by.

its not up to you to decide what rules are "minutiae".

Thats the attitude of drivers towards laws on streets of bangalore.

Re: I'm the Canadian who was detained by ICE for two weeks

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Post by apwell23 » Wed, Mar 19, 2025, 10:25 PM UTC

BizarreByte wrote: post #258

dhsysusbsjsi wrote: post #26

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I've already made the decision not to go to the US again for the foreseeable future.

Same for me as well. I've also gone as far as moving any paying business away from the US. I have completely moved off paid US services as of about a month ago to Canadian or EU equivalents.

thank you. curious whats making you so emotional about it though ? why so angry?

Re: I'm the Canadian who was detained by ICE for two weeks

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Post by apwell23 » Wed, Mar 19, 2025, 10:27 PM UTC

hattmall wrote: post #681

SpicyLemonZest wrote: post #656

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Is it true that Mexico denied her re-entry? The source article doesn't say anything about that, and I'm not sure why it would happen - Canadian nationals generally have visa-free entry for short trips to Mexico.

Yes, the agent saying "We have to send you back to Canada" is because she wasn't allowed in Mexico. By default her tourist card would have only covered entry from from Canada. The first CBP agent almost certainly attempted to get her back into Mexico which is why it took "hours." If she already had a valid VISA for Mexico then the default would be to return her. The article doesn't even really make it clear that she…

Yep this person clearly tried to manipulate the system and had the gall to admit that in public because she knew some many ppl wouldn't care and would support her regardless. this comment thread is proof of that.