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Re: MacBook Air M4

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Post by rajamaka »

philomath_mn wrote: post #607
tredre3 wrote: post #272

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Seems like you haven't actually looked into it if that's the impression you got, because both Thinkpad (X1) and Framework (13) make a laptop that fit your requirements. The X1 carbon even offers a 4k OLED option if you want it.

Going from an X1 Carbon to a MBP felt like stepping 10 years into the future. The seamless lid close, battery life, operating temp, build quality and performance were all _huge_ upgrades. I held out on Mac for 20 yrs, no idea what I was thinking.

I was also one of those vocal "never mac" people until I actually used one.

Re: MacBook Air M4

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Post by ant6n »

natnatenathan wrote: post #676
mcgrath_sh wrote: post #42

I have considered going back to Mac after about 5-7 years on Windows/WSL, but the storage premium is just too much to swallow. If the $999 was a base 16GB RAM and 512GB storage, I'd consider it. I just added another 32GB of RAM to my 2020 built desktop for $50. You can get a 1TB crucial M.2 drive for $70. I know I'm comparing apples and oranges, but the storage cost is too much, and 256GB is much too little. Edit: to…

I think you are crazy. The performance difference between MacOS and WSL is like night and day. I was just shopping for a Linux laptop and I have found that the top end models from Microsoft, Lenovo and Dell to be as or more expensive than Apple (with the exception of having user replaceable SSDs). There is nothing in the PC world that compares to Apple Silicon. If the price is too much, look at the refurb or used mar…

Apple doesn’t have a lightweight laptop with a matte screen. Their MacBook Air is light but has a reflective screen. The Pro has a matte screen (upgrade option) but is pretty heavy.

A true portable laptop, one that can be used not just at home where lighting could perhaps be controlled, needs to by lightweight and have a non-reflective screen.

Re: MacBook Air M4

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Post by jahewson »

maxglute wrote: post #690
mabedan wrote: post #684

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Isn’t it a couple years only ?

I meant pretty small tweaks to geometry and form since first gen like 15 years ago.

Wait, no... they changed it radically last year. It no longer has the wedge shape.

https://appleinsider.com/articles/24/03/04/after-14-years-ap...

Re: MacBook Air M4

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Post by Aeolun »

wyclif wrote: post #638
Aeolun wrote: post #470

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My $2000 linux desktop is still faster and snappier than the $4000 macbook, but it’s the only thing laptop sized that feels even close.

I'd be interested in hearing about the specs. Planning on building a new Linux desktop soon.

It has a Ryzen 9900X, 64GB of DDR5, AMD Radeon RX6600XT, 2x2TB Hanye NVMe, ROG B650 ATX motherboard and 850W power supply.

I bought the system mostly to increase the single core performance from the Ryzen 5 3600 I had before. As well as to get rid of all the little 256GB SSD disks I had in the previous one.

Re: MacBook Air M4

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Post by sunshowers »

dijit wrote: post #693
sunshowers wrote: post #680

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Yes, the whole point of abuse, and why there's a social taboo against it, is that it works. It achieves its desired effect. Microsoft is also a deeply abusive corporation. The discussion was not about them, though.

So, any profiting and market segmentation is abuse? The same word we use for raping kids? Give off.

No, not any profiting is abuse. I thought I made that quite clear. With apologies for quoting myself:

> If it were a boutique shop I wouldn't call it abusive. It's a combination of the bad behavior and the exercise of raw power that makes it so.

I was raped as a kid, friend. Many times.

Re: MacBook Air M4

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Post by maxglute »

jahewson wrote: post #723
maxglute wrote: post #690

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I meant pretty small tweaks to geometry and form since first gen like 15 years ago.

Wait, no... they changed it radically last year. It no longer has the wedge shape. https://appleinsider.com/articles/24/03/04/after-14-years-ap...

TIL!

Re: MacBook Air M4

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Post by Applejinx »

cogman10 wrote: post #504
thewebguyd wrote: post #492

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Yep, there's no one else. It's a sad state of affairs in the laptop world outside of Apple. Used to be primarily a Linux on the desktop user, but have been on macOS since the M1 air, and now typing this from a 14" M4 Pro MBP that will probably last me the next 5+ years easily. I don't love macOS but it's usable, I pretty much live in the terminal anyway, and the ecosystem features are nice - I make heavy use of clipb…

I put a LOT of the blame on ARM chipset manufacturers. The reason you can't get a good ARM laptop that isn't a Mac is because the chipset manufacturers treat them like they treat everything else. They want to have a custom patched kernel that's already 2 decades old and they drop support for it next month. It says a lot that probably the best in the space is the humble Raspberry Pi.

I'd probably make a point of buying a half-decent Pi laptop. I bought a 400, compile the Pi versions of my audio plugins on it.

Pi laptop with the most cursory audio I/O? I'm there. Not to live, but to support as a first class production option. There's something very 'sailboat with solar panel' about 'em.

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Post by commandersaki »

tredre3 wrote: post #272
ruuda wrote: post #247

My 4-year old Dell XPS 15 is up for replacement, but somehow no manufacturer aside from Apple is making laptop with decent specs nowadays? I want 2TB storage, a 4k (or close) HiDPI display, good build quality, and not a bulky gaming laptop. The XPS 15 was perfect, it had those specs, except it only had 1TB storage which is now full. I was expecting that to not be an issue 4 years later ... But now Dell discontinued X…

Seems like you haven't actually looked into it if that's the impression you got, because both Thinkpad (X1) and Framework (13) make a laptop that fit your requirements. The X1 carbon even offers a 4k OLED option if you want it.

I have a framework 13” and a few MacBooks. The framework is a really mediocre laptop, even for PC laptops. I don’t even think it really has potential to be honest.

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Post by windward »

tasuki wrote: post #404
maleldil wrote: post #344

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Try walking a few kilometres with a 3kg gaming laptop on your back or standing up inside public transport.

Yes, I'd rather carry a lighter laptop, but that's mostly because of all the other stuff I want to carry in my backpack (eg groceries). If walking "a few kilometres with a 3kg gaming laptop on your back" is a problem for you, you're rather out of shape.

>If walking "a few kilometres with a 3kg gaming laptop on your back" is a problem for you

This is disingenuous. It's not a problem, just less desirable.

Re: MacBook Air M4

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Post by _zoltan_ »

natnatenathan wrote: post #682
margorczynski wrote: post #456

I would go for it but the subpar OS I'm forced to use with the computer puts me off completely. But I understand the logic behind it and that you don't make margins like Apple just peddling good hardware, that's a quick recipe to end up like IBM.

Try Asahi Linux

he was already talking about it, given he mentioned subpar OS ;)

enjoy not having suspend, a webcam, a microphone... at that point it's just a useless paper weight.

just enjoy MacOS on it.

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