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Plane crashes, overturns during landing at Toronto airport

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Re: Plane crashes, overturns during landing at Toronto airport

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Damn so many airplane crashes in the last 12 months ... pretty sure a lot more then the norm!

yep, it's caused by Baader–Meinhof

Actual data would be a better response than a lazy "you're just imagining it".

Re: Plane crashes, overturns during landing at Toronto airport

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If we invested as much into rail safety as we do into air safety, it'd be fair to compare them. Regardless, in the long term rail transportation is simply much more sustainable and increased investment is very much warranted

It's also much more pleasant. And in the rare cases when things do go wrong your chances of survival are much higher.

> It's also much more pleasant.

And much slower. Most people prefer shorter discomfort over a longer one.

Also sometimes more expensive because train service is much more monopolized due to the need for infrastructure betweem stations.

Re: Plane crashes, overturns during landing at Toronto airport

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A fanny pack is actually where my reserve insulin is at all times. And the pack is attached to me most of the time. There's also some sugar in there too. People with T1 either have insulin pumps attached, or long-lasting insulin injected. They are not going to keel over from lack of insulin on most days, even if their pack is gone. Except if the pump stopped working hours ago, or they forgot to inject. Then they may…

I flew out of Toronto Pearson the day before this crash (after moving my flight a day forward because of the storms :-/ ), and noticed that flight attendants require passengers to remove any cross body fanny-pack type bags during takeoff and landing. I'm not sure if this applies to wearing it on the waist or not. I would imagine not. This might not be new or exclusive to Canada - it's just the first I've noticed it.

> This might not be new or exclusive to Canada - it's just the first I've noticed it.

Not Canada-only:

> So sorry for the disappointment with the carryon requirements. Please know that your fanny pack is considered a personal item and must be stowed properly during taxi, takeoff, and landing. Still, we understand the frustration and have documented your concern.

* https://twitter.com/SouthwestAir/status/1796641027924889819

* https://viewfromthewing.com/stupid-airline-carry-on-rules-if...

It may be a case of people abusing things and instead of a 'small' pack, they have a 'regular' purse and are trying to call it fanny pack. Then actually have a purse / personal item and a carry-on.

Re: Plane crashes, overturns during landing at Toronto airport

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> HN has a particular fascination with aviation disasters. HN has a fascination with Boeing's incompetency, greed and corner cutting that resulted in lost lives. That evolved tangentially into an interest in aviation incidents and accidents.

Just wanted to point out that Boeing's various disasters are not due to greed but to the combination of stupidity and greed. When smart people get greedy, they build things that last and that they can be proud of, because that's what's best for them long term. Whereas when smart people have zero greed, they build nothing at all. You need a strong motivation to power you through the pain of creating something good.

> because that's what's best for them long term

Is it? Many greedy people seem to happily fail upwards (or sideways to different companies). The baseline for compensation is generally what your previous compensation was, not the long-term success of your creations.

Re: Plane crashes, overturns during landing at Toronto airport

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HN has a particular fascination with aviation disasters. No disrespect at all, I've learnt more about aviation here than anywhere else. Before I came here I just assumed the whole thing to be magic.

As a software focused community, it's interesting to see how engineering is done it safety critical industries.

And accident investigation! Wish such detailed analysis was done in other fields.

Re: Plane crashes, overturns during landing at Toronto airport

#726

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I think most pilots could take one look at that approach and see they were coming in too fast. As many have said, that looked more like a carrier landing than an airstrip approach.

Flight radar shows a normalized approach where speed and altitude conform to that standard. I wonder if late wind shear was the issue.

1100 feet/minute descent rate?

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A fire can be extinguished with diesel (jet fuel is pretty much just cleaner diesel / kerosene) in cold conditions, I know because I’ve done it. It takes a fair amount of heat / pressure to ignite jet fuel, easier if it’s vaporised.

Why were you trying to extinguish a fire using diesel?

I would guess they were not trying to extinguish a fire with diesel and accidentally learned you could.

Re: Plane crashes, overturns during landing at Toronto airport

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Depends if you're in Canada's "northern domestic airspace" or "southern domestic airspace": https://www.canada.ca/content/dam/dnd-mdn/images/technical-a... Airports in the southern half of Canada still use magnetic for runways.

TIL!

... for now. Goal is to get everything on True within the next 5 years. https://www.navcanada.ca/en/magnetic%20north%20vs%20true%20n...

The global effort. https://www.icao.int/safety/OPS/OPS-Section/Pages/Truenorth....

Re: Plane crashes, overturns during landing at Toronto airport

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That's interesting. I never encountered either a pseudocholinesterase deficiency or MH during my 38 years of residency/attending/private practice. However — in my first year of residency, during my rotation at the VA, while performing my first brachial plexus block, I unknowingly injected lidocaine into the axillary artery: as the patient began seizing, the attending calmly said "Joe, take out the needle, I'm going t…

One of my attendings during residency was Kenyan. In the bush, pediatric anesthesia was lido until they seized. At that point, you knew they could not feel anything.

This is insanely wonderful and amazing!!!!
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