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You did a Boondock Saints!
THERE WAS A FIREFIGHT
What's the symbology there?
Ross Ulbricht granted a full pardon
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Re: Ross Ulbricht granted a full pardon
#722Here is what the discussion looked like almost a decade ago: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=9626985
Very striking to see how the sentiment has drastically shifted, while the facts of the case did not. There is a really cultural shift visible in how this issue is seen on here.
Re: Ross Ulbricht granted a full pardon
#723I know he wasn't convicted of hiring a hitman, and I know the attempt didn't succeed, but he still tried to kill other people. Moreover, during a Bitcoin conference, he gave a live talk from prison via phone and still lied, claiming they planted the log on his laptop. A full pardon is ridiculous. It's unfair to so many people, including his partners like Variety Jones, also known as Thomas Clark. On the other hand, I…
> I'm pretty sure he won't do anything like this again. Famous last words, eh?
On the contrary, his not guilty plea, his ongoing insistence on his innocence, and libertarian true-believer tendencies etc. suggest the opposite.
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#724I don’t get it. Was every non-violent drug offender in federal prisons pardoned or only this guy? If so, why?
Re: Ross Ulbricht granted a full pardon
#725Is Donald also refunding everyone’s deposits on Silkroad?
Re: Ross Ulbricht granted a full pardon
#726Will he get his possesions back then? 50,676 bitcoins, today valued at 5,3 billion USD. https://www.justice.gov/usao-sdny/pr/us-attorney-announces-h...
I don't think it's crazy to suspect that Ulbricht knows a password or two and cut a deal here.
I expected those would come out sooner, by rubber hose technique in prison.
Re: Ross Ulbricht granted a full pardon
#727I know he wasn't convicted of hiring a hitman, and I know the attempt didn't succeed, but he still tried to kill other people. Moreover, during a Bitcoin conference, he gave a live talk from prison via phone and still lied, claiming they planted the log on his laptop. A full pardon is ridiculous. It's unfair to so many people, including his partners like Variety Jones, also known as Thomas Clark. On the other hand, I…
I don’t think he should have been sent to ADX Florence, but gen pop in San Quentin seems reasonable. Give him 10 more years in Jail me says!
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Re: Ross Ulbricht granted a full pardon
#728If I wanted to know this, I’d visit Reddit.
Re: Ross Ulbricht granted a full pardon
#729Here is what the discussion looked like almost a decade ago: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=9626985 Very striking to see how the sentiment has drastically shifted, while the facts of the case did not. There is a really cultural shift visible in how this issue is seen on here.
Seems kinda the same to me?
Re: Ross Ulbricht granted a full pardon
#730It's baffling to me that there are actually comments on Hacker Gosh Darn News of all places suggesting that Ross justly belonged in prison. He successfully created a tool to undermine one of the most unjust and predatory policies of the US State - the policy of drug prohibition. He's a damn hero. I don't understand why Trump, who most of the time seems like a simply awful human being with no end of appetite for state…
It's hard to know why he wouldn't - he conspired to have people killed, and facilitated illegal activity, i.e. the sale of all sorts of drugs. You might be saying "well, drugs shouldn't be illegal", or even, "well, conspiring to kill people shouldn't be illegal", but they were illegal at the time.
Seems like a legal slight-of-hand, and also unjust and unethical and absolutely ripe for government abuse.
He was punished for the crime of attempting or conspiring to commit murder. Without ever having been found guilty in a trial by jury of his peers determining beyond reasonable doubt that the facts met said crime.