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Re: Orion, our first true augmented reality glasses

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Post by ang_cire »

crazygringo wrote: post #155
ang_cire wrote: post #85

This is cool from a technical standpoint, but ultimately just feels like another gimmick. This feels like it's doing stuff that I could do faster or better (and definitely, more safely) on a computer or phone. I don't personally see the appeal of hands-free as a paradigm in most cases. Do we really want people talking on and looking at Zoom as they walk around the office? Or as they drive? Or as they are out shopping…

I definitely see the appeal. A vastly larger screen where you don't have to crane your neck down to read the news? That sounds amazing for my daily commute, and so much healthier for my neck and shoulders. And visible directions while cycling would be amazing, when it's unsafe to glance at your phone. (Audio directions aren't nearly as good, and wearing headphones/earbuds while cycling is illegal in a lot of places a…

> visible directions while cycling would be amazing, when it's unsafe to glance at your phone

> A heads-up display in your car should be safer too than looking down at the screen

The HUD in a car can't play YouTube. If you only use your glasses to show directions, that's great, but that's not the issue. Distracted drivers and riders is.

The actual, safe thing to do when you don't know which streets are which, or where you need to go, is to pull over to check, whether you're in a car or on a bike.

> A vastly larger screen where you don't have to crane your neck down to read the news?

The size part could be nice (though hands-free web navigation is a pain), but why do you have to crane your neck? You can lift your phone screen up to eye-level.

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Post by jodrellblank »

fsflover wrote: post #707
threeseed wrote: post #692

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Almost every single website and app in the world has some level of first party tracking. There is nothing at all wrong with it since you are a direct user of the product or service.

Not FLOSS apps.

https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/privacy-preserving-attr...

How to turn off the opt-out thing in Firefox 128 which gathers data on your browsing and sends it to third parties.

Re: Orion, our first true augmented reality glasses

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Post by ang_cire »

leohonexus wrote: post #718

For the record: I think this is going to be one of the posts where the HN vibe would be totally off (incorrectly negative) looking back 10 years from now. Similar to the original Dropbox post: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=9224

I can't tell if you're saying that they were incorrectly negative, or incorrectly positive?

In my experience, everyone hates Dropbox, and especially that it's always popping up asking you to sign in, and that it's preinstalled on fresh Windows installs whether you want it or not.

Re: Orion, our first true augmented reality glasses

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Post by PoignardAzur »

paul7986 wrote: post #428
pazimzadeh wrote: post #415

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This is very interesting. The company that looks most poised to capitalize on a product like this is still Apple. Wireless compute puck = iPhone Wrist band = Apple watch (although most people wear it on their non-dominant hand) From the videos it looks like Meta adopted Apple's UI of a horizontal handle bar underneath a window for interacting with a piece of content. Considering that the 100 degree field of view of t…

Apple selling a device that causes privacy issues (a camera always in your face as a non-user)..seems like a stretch. Facebook seems better aligned in that regards.

If we're talking "privacy concerns for the people the device is used on", Apple already did that with AirTags.

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Post by franciscop »

ang_cire wrote: post #723
leohonexus wrote: post #718

For the record: I think this is going to be one of the posts where the HN vibe would be totally off (incorrectly negative) looking back 10 years from now. Similar to the original Dropbox post: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=9224

I can't tell if you're saying that they were incorrectly negative, or incorrectly positive? In my experience, everyone hates Dropbox, and especially that it's always popping up asking you to sign in, and that it's preinstalled on fresh Windows installs whether you want it or not.

~10 years ago Dropbox was amazing and widely used, at least in my University and by many people in my community. For the record, the infamous post OP is referring to is almost 20 years old now.

Re: Orion, our first true augmented reality glasses

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Post by ang_cire »

keiferski wrote: post #614

It seems like a crazy thing to say, but the phone/tablet format is actually not very natural. It is more natural than the previous generation of computers that require being stationary and using a complicated keyboard, sure. But holding a device in your hand and staring at it isn’t really the optimal way of using technology. Which is a long way of saying that even if this generation of AR devices don’t take off, they…

You've actually got it backwards.

There's a reason that mice and keyboards are faster and more accurate than touchscreens, and it's that there is a physical+visual feedback occurring that our brains are used to processing when handling other physical objects. Touchscreens have no haptic component (or they have a vibration that is disconnected from the action that you're actually doing on the screen), so you're relying entirely on visual cues. It's slower and less accurate. Compare max WPM on physical vs touch keyboards, for instance.

Moving to AR/VR is even worse, because the lag time is much larger than on a touchscreen, and in the case of VR, your hands are completely hidden.

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Post by ang_cire »

lagniappe wrote: post #656

In the future, these aren't glasses, they're contact lenses that are powered by the microscopic "jiggles" the lenses of your eyes make as they move back and forth, to show you ad-supported floating product descriptions in-place as you shop, or character notes to help you follow plotlines better as you watch a show.

> to show you ad-supported floating product descriptions in-place as you shop

Just so we're on the same page... you do think this is a bad thing, right?

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Post by n4r9 »

andy81 wrote: post #456
stevage wrote: post #438

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Yes, that guy. Was he actually pm? Or just opposition leader? Either way, him.

Assistant PM. He gave the largest party a majority in exchange for a referendum on first-past-the-post.

IMO this was one of the worst political catastrophes in 21st Century UK politics. Young, educated people formed a core part of their voter base at the time. This demographic felt betrayed by the Lib Dems propping up a Conservative government and a tripling of university tuition fees, increase in VAT, and introduction of austerity. Clegg also failed to lead an effective campaign in the "Alternative Vote" referendum, resulting in an overwhelming defeat and decades-long setback for voting reform. (N.B. there are interesting parallels between this and the Brexit referendum. In both cases, the opposition was allowed to spin it as personality politics.)

A pretty good article about it here: https://academic.oup.com/pa/article/68/suppl_1/70/1403259

Only now has the Lib Dem vote share recovered, largely due to an implosion in the Conservative party and a relatively regressive Labour electoral campaign.

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Post by ang_cire »

mynameisash wrote: post #160
ang_cire wrote: post #85

This is cool from a technical standpoint, but ultimately just feels like another gimmick. This feels like it's doing stuff that I could do faster or better (and definitely, more safely) on a computer or phone. I don't personally see the appeal of hands-free as a paradigm in most cases. Do we really want people talking on and looking at Zoom as they walk around the office? Or as they drive? Or as they are out shopping…

> Can you imagine how goofy you'd look sitting at a coffee shop and just sort of staring into the middle distance and talking, as you take a Zoom call? While I agree with you, you could also say the same thing about mashing a black square with your thumbs at a coffee shop or walking around a grocery store with little piece of plastic in your ear and talking to someone.

> you could also say the same thing about ...walking around a grocery store with little piece of plastic in your ear and talking to someone

Yes, you can. And I would.

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