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Kim Dotcom's extradition to the U.S. given green light by New Zealand

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Re: Kim Dotcom's extradition to the U.S. given green light by New Zealand

#721

Didn't like the guy when he was in the news, but this is too long ago, give it a rest. Why does NZ even play ball on this, just tell the US to f off.

NZ elected a business-centric government last year. Since then, all government decisions involving individuals-vs-business have taken a distinct lean towards the business side.

Re: Kim Dotcom's extradition to the U.S. given green light by New Zealand

#722

Probably Kim Dotcom has done wrong, but I don't think he deserves to go to court and or prison in a country he has never resided in.

I'm not sure that can be applied consistently. Would you say the same about heads of drug cartels or human trafficking rings (not equating these to Kim, as I'm sure you understand)?

I think you should build your argument a little bit more.

I’d say, why not say that also for drug cartels? The only reasonable argument that comes to my mind is that some big cartel head might have local government influence, but that does not apply to Kim and New Zealand, right?

Another possible argument would be that the damage has been done elsewhere. But in the case of the dtug cartel, if there are victims in 20 countries that why would any third party have priority for enforcing their law?

Re: Kim Dotcom's extradition to the U.S. given green light by New Zealand

#723
post #598

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Was he trying to stick it to the man, or find a way to enrich himself off of content that people were already sharing? There's a lot of retcon-ing those like him, Ross Ulbricht, etc as freedom fighters, when the truth is they were simply capitalists.

Youtube became popular over similar sites (like Vimeo) by hosting pirated tv episodes. But one was started by ex-Paypal founders and the other bootstrapped (MegaUpload). Worse, while MegaUpload followed the letter of the law by doing removals of content that was reported as pirated they fell afoul of the law by stringently going after child pornographers and a court decided they can do that then they could do the sam…

>>> Youtube became popular over similar sites (like Vimeo) by hosting pirated tv episodes.

+10x Twitch. I still remember JustinTV ..

>>>> Worse, while MegaUpload followed the letter of the law by doing removals of content that was reported as pirated

Could you please elaborate ? The implication is that other similar sites were not removing child pornography or similar ?

Re: Kim Dotcom's extradition to the U.S. given green light by New Zealand

#724

I appreciate Kim Dotcom for running MegaUpload and later Mega, in a time when the internet was younger and wilder. Also for his pirate spirit and "stick it to the man" attitude. But everything has a limit, specifically his resistance against the law, even if he hid it behind virtues. I think it's clear for everybody that one cannot get away with this kind of stuff, once governments get involved. Isn't it wiser to sto…

Was he trying to stick it to the man, or find a way to enrich himself off of content that people were already sharing? There's a lot of retcon-ing those like him, Ross Ulbricht, etc as freedom fighters, when the truth is they were simply capitalists.

Yeah, large scale copyright theft for profit is something that you're only allowed to do if your name is "Sam Altman".

Re: Kim Dotcom's extradition to the U.S. given green light by New Zealand

#725
post #605

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> enforces a draconian global taxation scheme on any citizen or person who has ever held a US green card, even after they permanently leave. That's not quite true. If you _return_ your green card ("abandon it"), you no longer have to pay taxes. This makes sense as a parallel to being a US citizen, who would pay taxes even if they lived abroad. I'm not saying it's right, but we need to be accurate.

Even those who officially abandoned their green cards are subject to FATCA for life and often struggle to open bank accounts abroad.

That's false. FATCA only applies to American taxpayers like U.S. businesses[1], citizens, greencard holders, and other residents [2]. It does not apply to nonresident illegal aliens, former citizens, or nonresident former greencard holders.

[1] In this context, including foreign businesses that file a U.S. tax return. [2] Note that for FATCA purposes, if a person is a US taxpayer for any portion of the year, they are subject to FATCA compliance purposes for that tax year no matter how much of that year was actually spent as a US taxpayer. However, if they are not a US taxpayer at the end of the year, they would not be subject to FATCA compliance for the following year.

Re: Kim Dotcom's extradition to the U.S. given green light by New Zealand

#726
post #598

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Youtube became popular over similar sites (like Vimeo) by hosting pirated tv episodes. But one was started by ex-Paypal founders and the other bootstrapped (MegaUpload). Worse, while MegaUpload followed the letter of the law by doing removals of content that was reported as pirated they fell afoul of the law by stringently going after child pornographers and a court decided they can do that then they could do the sam…

>>> Youtube became popular over similar sites (like Vimeo) by hosting pirated tv episodes. +10x Twitch. I still remember JustinTV .. >>>> Worse, while MegaUpload followed the letter of the law by doing removals of content that was reported as pirated Could you please elaborate ? The implication is that other similar sites were not removing child pornography or similar ?

Not 100% sure what your first line means so apologies if I'm telling you something you already know but just want to point out that Twitch is JustinTV. They just rebranded the gaming section of the original site.

Re: Kim Dotcom's extradition to the U.S. given green light by New Zealand

#727
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Streaming is not piracy though?

No, but piracy didn't stop being the #1 way to obtain digital music until streaming offered a convenient alternative. Streaming was essentially forced into existence by the wild rampancy and ease of music piracy. You really think if Spotify came along in 1998 that all the major record labels would agree to give them their entire catalog for $10 a month? Back then they were selling a single CD for around $20.

Streaming was forced into existence by the invention of digital media. The ~20 years between the point where could stream and the point where we did stream seems in retrospect to be an artifact of having an entrenched industry clinging desperately to the concept of music as a physical product.

Re: Kim Dotcom's extradition to the U.S. given green light by New Zealand

#728

Probably Kim Dotcom has done wrong, but I don't think he deserves to go to court and or prison in a country he has never resided in.

I'm not sure that can be applied consistently. Would you say the same about heads of drug cartels or human trafficking rings (not equating these to Kim, as I'm sure you understand)?

When is the last time the head of pretty much any drug cartel was extradited to the USA?

Re: Kim Dotcom's extradition to the U.S. given green light by New Zealand

#729

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm not sure that can be applied consistently. Would you say the same about heads of drug cartels or human trafficking rings (not equating these to Kim, as I'm sure you understand)?

When is the last time the head of pretty much any drug cartel was extradited to the USA?

A couple months ago: https://www.justice.gov/usao-sdny/pr/sinaloa-cartel-leader-n...

Re: Kim Dotcom's extradition to the U.S. given green light by New Zealand

#730

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm not sure that can be applied consistently. Would you say the same about heads of drug cartels or human trafficking rings (not equating these to Kim, as I'm sure you understand)?

When is the last time the head of pretty much any drug cartel was extradited to the USA?

https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/lead-defendant-long-running-d... maybe not head, but 3 weeks ago.

There's a bunch of these people extradited all the time.

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