perhaps it's time to normalize relations with their government and end the blockade.
"No." -The U.S. and Israel
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#722I support immigration and oppose the Republican anti-immigrant platform because it seems to me there is significant brain drain from many countries to the U.S. and that contributes to our success. For example, in this article is about white collar crime, it points out that many Somali-Americans were professionals back in Somalia. I'm not concerned about the crime because that seems like a somewhat higher tendency unt…
Careful, the "doctors and lawyers" mantra was already tried in Europe since 2015 and failed miserably.
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#723Earlier quoted context omitted.
> the Republican anti-immigrant platform because it seems to me there is significant brain drain from many countries to the U.S. and that contributes to our success. Explain how unskilled illegal immigrants contribute to our success. I'm open minded but I've yet to hear anything convincing. No one is opposed to the legal immigration of skilled workers.
Economists say every immigrant is a net economic positive to the nation. They eat,buy food clothing, cars. Every immigrant child is a net negative to the state,at least until they turn 18. But it isn't even. Net neg per kid of maybe 800 a year, positive of each adult of 1200-1600 are the numbers I've heard on freakonomics podcast. Their guests proposed solution was to have the feds pay the states per an immigrant chi…
This net economic benefit of immigrants varies based on their background and skill sets. In Denmark for example, MENA immigrants are a net drain throughout their entire productive work lives.
https://web.archive.org/web/20240111003833/https://www.econo...
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#724Earlier quoted context omitted.
> I'm not concerned about the crime You may not be concerned about the crime, but many voters are. The author of the article you linked to also exhorts the Somali immigrant community to not engage in crime. > because that seems like a somewhat higher tendency until the 2nd and 3rd generation is able to make it into established society. History and data from various European nations suggest that some immigrant groups…
Interestingly various European nations turn out to be a poor comparison group for the United States. No one has conclusively determined why yet, but we know there's a strong correlation between a country having English as the primary language and immigrants integrating well. This is especially true for second-generation immigrants. First generation immigrants are general less likely to commit crimes, but in countries…
There are only 3 or 4 countries in the west having English as their main language.
What about UK, how did that work out for them? I can't see the charts.
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#725Earlier quoted context omitted.
Brain drain to the US helps the US, yes. The key word there is the brain. What doesn't help is taking in unskilled and manual laborers; that only creates downward pressure on wages and upward pressure on housing prices and other scarce resources, even before we get to any correlation with crime. Countries with a highly successful immigration system, notably Canada, do it by being highly merit-based, for education and…
> Countries with a highly successful immigration system, notably Canada You probably aren't aware of this but that is definitely not the sentiment with Canadians recently. https://www.reddit.com/r/CanadaHousing2/top/?sort=top&t=year
Canadian here, but not speaking on half of all Canadians.
We do have a highly successful immigration system, but don't have a highly successful infrastructure. There is a housing crisis.
The irony is I believe in the longer term Canada will face an immigrant shortage and not a housing crisis. As a born Canadian I am seeing less & less value to immigrating to Canada unless you're coming to employed as a Uber driver/Food delivery.
Re: 10% of Cubans left Cuba between 2022 and 2023
#726Note that it's only the US that has an embargo against Cuba. The rest of the world trades pretty freely with them.
Sounds like you deeply misunderstand how US embargo works.
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#727Earlier quoted context omitted.
I should be clear... I'm not talking about Nordic countries regarding Jews. Swedes, Norwegians and Danes are considered heroes in this regard, and the historical analogies to the rest of Western Europe don't hold. There was no history of ghettoization or discrimination there. I am not applying my criticism there. It should be said that the pre-WW2 Jewish population of Sweden was miniscule, but that Swedes took great…
French Jew here. I agree that our social, educational and cultural institutions are doing an absolutely atrocious job of integrating immigrant populations. Despite that, I find that most people I know from the Maghreb are actually quite well integrated, mostly because as an educated, well-to-do person I hang around with other educated, well-to-do people and they tend to be quite nice to get along with. I grew up in H…
This is a fair take. And my experience with Arabs who are well off and relatively secular in France and Spain, and even more so Maghrebis who quietly identify as Berbers, tracks with what you mean as far as their integration and acceptance. But I did live in Avignon for awhile and saw some of the worst of the well-meaning welfare state in action, just outside the city walls.
I'm not blaming the character of the French any more than the character of the Arabs, I just think the system is not built in a way like America where assimilation is the goal of either party.
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#728Earlier quoted context omitted.
When looking at how wealthy democracies integrate immigrants the English speaking countries are dramatically more successful across all the standard objective metrics like crime rates or income compared to the native population. So Sweden isn't relevant.
Is the UK that particularly better than all the countries on the continent? And comparing US/Australia/NZ with Europe in the regard isn't exactly fair (they are much better at controlling and picking who can or can't come). US specifically already has extremely high crimes rates (compared to most developed countries) which might overshadow any effect immigrants might have.
The US has very weak employment checks and it's trivial to illegally work ones life here without having to commit any other crimes.
We also have weaker regulations that allow you to start a business with basically $20 and a pressure washer, and you can legalize it with a foreign passport. The English speaking countries generally have lowest barriers to start a business which is a good release valve when you can produce value but racists won't hire you (customers will at low enough price).
I suspect illegals and foreigners in general don't cause so many problems here because its easier to survive helping us than hurting us.
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#729In southern europe we call this "Brain drain". It's a global phenomenon it seems, freedom of movement leads to contentration of productive forces to a few global cities, while the rest of the planet is increasingly deserted
Re: 10% of Cubans left Cuba between 2022 and 2023
#730In southern europe we call this "Brain drain". It's a global phenomenon it seems, freedom of movement leads to contentration of productive forces to a few global cities, while the rest of the planet is increasingly deserted
Doesn’t brain drain imply the smarter people are moving? I’m not sure that’s what’s happening here. I think it’s anyone who can get out.
When I was in Havana our AirBnB was next to the Spanish embassy. There was a long line every morning of potential emigres waiting for their turn. (I have no idea how the process works when they get to the front of the line, I just was told they were trying to get out of the country legally. )
After spending a couple weeks in Cuba it’s not hard to see why.