is this Biden campaign move because they know they have literally nothing to sell people to?
Julian Assange has reached a plea deal with the U.S., allowing him to go free
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Re: Julian Assange has reached a plea deal with the U.S., allowing him to go free
#722Earlier quoted context omitted.
And whistleblowing is for a different case, it is when you work for an organization and see illegal or dangerous things, and choose loyalty to the law / public interest instead of the organization whom you work for. Here it is different, it is an activist sponsored/supported by an enemy state actively seeking to create chaos in a foreign government.
Agreed, but I wonder if the west is stronger for it. If he had spread only lies and propaganda that the people ate up, maybe we’d only be stronger from the experience, but revealing actual problems in our system allows us to fix what otherwise lacked incentive to fix. Maybe.
I wonder what is the end result.
It could be that these leaks actually improved the practices and government entities act nicer, due to the fear of getting caught.
Or, just worse:
It could have actually improved the information-protection practices, and serious crimes that would have "naturally" leaked to the press, are now even better guarded than before Wikileaks.
Re: Julian Assange has reached a plea deal with the U.S., allowing him to go free
#723This isn't something good though, in fact it's really bad. He's actually agreed to confess to something which the US should have no legal authority over. We must remember that the US are torturers who tortured people here in Sweden, right at Bromma airport, even after specifically agreeing not to torture them. It is not a country which should have any influence whatsoever outside its borders; and this is someone who…
> It is not a country which should have any influence whatsoever outside its borders I wholly agree, as an American citizen
Re: Julian Assange has reached a plea deal with the U.S., allowing him to go free
#724I am going to hold the celebrations until we are sure there isn't anything else on the horizon. He isn't getting a pardon and being declared free and clear of charges in the US is very difficult. Who knows what state prosecutor might want to bring new state charges. He may also be wanted as a material witness. If I were him I wouldn't set foot outside Australia ever again.
Re: Julian Assange has reached a plea deal with the U.S., allowing him to go free
#725Earlier quoted context omitted.
> It is not a country which should have any influence whatsoever outside its borders I wholly agree, as an American citizen
Be careful what you ask for. The United Kingdom went from a country with enormously outsized global influence to just another European nation. The downward spiral has been stark. The economy stagnates, more and more people live in poverty, and voters decided to inflict further self-harm by cutting themselves off from economic treaties with neighbors based on an illusion of self-importance. If America ends up in the s…
Re: Julian Assange has reached a plea deal with the U.S., allowing him to go free
#726Re: Julian Assange has reached a plea deal with the U.S., allowing him to go free
#727I am going to hold the celebrations until we are sure there isn't anything else on the horizon. He isn't getting a pardon and being declared free and clear of charges in the US is very difficult. Who knows what state prosecutor might want to bring new state charges. He may also be wanted as a material witness. If I were him I wouldn't set foot outside Australia ever again.
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Re: Julian Assange has reached a plea deal with the U.S., allowing him to go free
#728This isn't something good though, in fact it's really bad. He's actually agreed to confess to something which the US should have no legal authority over. We must remember that the US are torturers who tortured people here in Sweden, right at Bromma airport, even after specifically agreeing not to torture them. It is not a country which should have any influence whatsoever outside its borders; and this is someone who…
I'm not going to defend US autrocities, but why exactly is Sweeden and the EU allowing this stuff to happen on their soil?
Re: Julian Assange has reached a plea deal with the U.S., allowing him to go free
#729I am going to hold the celebrations until we are sure there isn't anything else on the horizon. He isn't getting a pardon and being declared free and clear of charges in the US is very difficult. Who knows what state prosecutor might want to bring new state charges. He may also be wanted as a material witness. If I were him I wouldn't set foot outside Australia ever again.
Seems like the perfect place to kidnap him
Re: Julian Assange has reached a plea deal with the U.S., allowing him to go free
#730Earlier quoted context omitted.
What’s the actual view on him in oz? We’ve got exiled Aussie politicians here in the U.K. saying that he’s universally reviled, and that nobody even sees him as a “real” Australian, and that Australians will never forgive him for violating their privacy (oh, the bleeding irony). No alternate viewpoints, looks like 100% of sampled Australians hate him?
>> We’ve got exiled Aussie politicians here in the U.K. Does Australia actually exile people? I thought that was done away with long ago. If they are wanted for crimes in Australia then they would be extradited from the UK. Even informal exile only normally happens between countries that do not have extradition treaties. I suspect these politicians are simply expatriates living in the UK for professional or tax reaso…
Sometimes when a public figure fucks up their career in their home country, they'll move to another country where people don't know about the fuck-up.
This isn't a literal exile, it's figurative.