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Re: Bard is now Gemini, and we’re rolling out a mobile app and Gemini Advanced

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Post by DannyBee »

jstummbillig wrote: post #546
DannyBee wrote: post #386

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so I have done a lot of transcripts, coding, one versus the other (gpt4 vs ultra). Often simple prompts like refactor this code or convert this python to typescript. My experience is that Gemini ultra understands the code better, but doesn’t always give me as complete of results (they seem to limit output length more) Beyond that it is very smart. I’ve had to tell me this code packs 12 bit integers into different par…

> That said, I have fed thousands of lines of code into both of them and asked them to refactor it, and neither one of them made more than one error. All code otherwise compiled and worked first try. I would be very interested to get a more detailed scope of what you did here. Feeding thousands of lines of code into GPT4 and getting a near perfect refactor does very much NOT sound like my experience, but it seems hig…

I'm happy to share transcripts if you email me.

I'm not sure what you are feeding it. My scope is closer to a file at a time of fairly mostly self-contained python or C and asking it to clean it up or convert it to typescript.

I can imagine lots of scenarios it doesn't work well.

In mine, it does, and I have plenty of transcripts showing that :)

Re: Bard is now Gemini, and we’re rolling out a mobile app and Gemini Advanced

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Post by [deleted] »

jstummbillig wrote: post #546
DannyBee wrote: post #386

Earlier quoted context omitted.

so I have done a lot of transcripts, coding, one versus the other (gpt4 vs ultra). Often simple prompts like refactor this code or convert this python to typescript. My experience is that Gemini ultra understands the code better, but doesn’t always give me as complete of results (they seem to limit output length more) Beyond that it is very smart. I’ve had to tell me this code packs 12 bit integers into different par…

> That said, I have fed thousands of lines of code into both of them and asked them to refactor it, and neither one of them made more than one error. All code otherwise compiled and worked first try. I would be very interested to get a more detailed scope of what you did here. Feeding thousands of lines of code into GPT4 and getting a near perfect refactor does very much NOT sound like my experience, but it seems hig…

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Re: Bard is now Gemini, and we’re rolling out a mobile app and Gemini Advanced

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Post by earth_walker »

oakashes wrote: post #674
zooq_ai wrote: post #327

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Also as time goes by, it'll get smoothly integrated into docs/gmail/maps/calendar/youtube/search/colab/sheets/android/assistant So Gemini could by your one-stop AI shop for everything. Only Microsoft can match it (but Microsoft doesn't have a popular maps, youtube, mail, smartphone OS service). Apple is another strong player (but they don't have productivity tools like docs, sheets or youtube). It really is Google's…

I agree that Google is well-positioned, but they were also well-positioned to take advantage of these synergies with Google Assistant for many years and I would say that that did not meaningfully materialize in a way that was helpful to me as an Android and Google ecosystem user.

Agreed. I've run the house using google minis and assistant for years now, and asking assistant to do / about stuff has not improved one iota in that time and has introduced several more quirks and bugs.

Makes me wish I had bet on Alexa or Apple instead.

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Post by rakoo »

htrp wrote: post #712
linsomniac wrote: post #270

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The wording around the Gemini Ultra enable scares me: "Upgrade your Google One plan". I have a One family plan, does this upgrade remove the family part? What happens if I don't decide to keep Gemini and want to go back to my current plan, can I even do that? Google has kind of botched these sorts of upgrades in the past so I'm pretty reluctant to give it a try here.

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Re: Bard is now Gemini, and we’re rolling out a mobile app and Gemini Advanced

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Post by LudwigNagasena »

anonymouskimmer wrote: post #709
sho_hn wrote: post #659

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"Bard" always struck me a bad naming - unfamiliar, unfriendly, too cerebral. I think the name was an impediment against establishing a household brand.

> unfamiliar, unfriendly, too cerebral The Witcher is one of Netflix's most watch shows. I'd also imagine that most people in English speaking countries have been exposed to Shakespeare's nickname in high school English classes.

It’s generally a common trope in fantasy and Romanticist literature. It’s also a word that exists in virtually all European languages in a similar form (bard, bardo, barde, бард), although similar but different forms may be a negative.

Re: Bard is now Gemini, and we’re rolling out a mobile app and Gemini Advanced

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Post by erickhill »

gnicholas wrote: post #630

I'm surprised they got rid of the Bard name. It struck me as a really smart choice since a Bard is someone who said things, and it's an old/archaic enough word to not already be in a zillion other names. Gemini, on the other hand, doesn't strike me as particularly relevant (except that perhaps it's a twin of ChatGPT?), and there are other companies with the same name. EDIT: I can see the advantage of picking a name t…

The Bard name gave me a warm fuzzy feeling immediately transporting me back to my youth playing (or at least trying to play) Bard's Tale. The name evoked adventure, excitement and a good dose of dread. And, the idea of it being "role playing" struck me as a master meta stroke.

Gemini, from the mythological standpoint, seemed to make more sense to me from an overall business/marketing standpoint. "This AI thing right here is your twin, see? It'll finish your sentences and stuff."

Re: Bard is now Gemini, and we’re rolling out a mobile app and Gemini Advanced

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Post by philips »

stan_kirdey wrote: post #678

I've been testing Ultra model today and comparing it to open source Mixtral MOE on HF chat. Gemini Ultra lost in every instance to the free open source model, including code generation. I think the tasks I do with the help of LLMs are common, and Gemini Ultra is unusable at the moment. Gemini refuses to answer or perform even on the simple prompts. I hope Google team can make it better, but at the moment, for my ligh…

Can you paste in the transcripts?

Re: Bard is now Gemini, and we’re rolling out a mobile app and Gemini Advanced

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Post by jacquesm »

jcims wrote: post #621
jacquesm wrote: post #519

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Thank you for making the world a bit worse. /s

The most surprising part to me is how committed it is to the bit. If you start pressing it for why it suggested a specific brand it holds the line. eg https://chat.openai.com/share/dbfac80b-daec-4d30-a333-19e5c6... When I asked it to explain how it promoted the product it didn't even mention juking my questions in the conversation. Now layer in access to chat history, data brokers and all of that shit that a 'real' i…

I have no doubt that this sort of thing will happen for real within a year or two. It's the ultimate form of product placement and I hope it gets regulated out of existence before it takes root. At a minimum any such advertisement should be clearly marked as such.

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Post by assimpleaspossi »

gnicholas wrote: post #630

I'm surprised they got rid of the Bard name. It struck me as a really smart choice since a Bard is someone who said things, and it's an old/archaic enough word to not already be in a zillion other names. Gemini, on the other hand, doesn't strike me as particularly relevant (except that perhaps it's a twin of ChatGPT?), and there are other companies with the same name. EDIT: I can see the advantage of picking a name t…

Bard showed some creativity in name selection. Gemini does not. You see that everywhere. Or at least my first thought was about the Gemini spacecraft

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Post by nicpottier »

lol768 wrote: post #629
yandie wrote: post #549

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I got a different answer with GPT 3.5 > If the word "push" is written on the glass door in mirror writing, it means that from the other side of the door, it should be pushed. When you see the mirrored text from your side, it indicates the action to be taken from the opposite side. Therefore, in this scenario, you should push the door to open it.

I also get the wrong answer with GPT 4 https://chat.openai.com/share/4373c945-88b8-4742-8a2c-76fff2... > You should push the door. The word "push" written in mirror writing indicates that the instructions are intended for someone on the opposite side of the door from where you are standing. Since you can see the mirror writing from your side, it means the text is facing the other side, suggesting that those on the ot…

Strange, I get the right answer on GPT4

> If the word "push" is written in mirror writing and you are seeing it from your side of the glass door, you should pull the door towards you. The reason for this is that the instruction is intended for people on the other side of the door. For them, the word "push" would appear correctly, instructing them to push the door to open it from their side. Since you are seeing it in reverse, it implies you are on the opposite side, and the correct action for you would be to pull the door to open it.

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