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Re: Microsoft announces new Bing and Edge browser powered by upgraded ChatGPT AI

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Just waiting on Microsoft to tell me about hot singles in my area, and the trifecta will be complete

I have to use a windows PC sometimes and if I accidentally move my mouse to the bottom left of the screen a bunch of Bing News articles pop out telling me about 7 different people dying. I don’t know how to turn it off.

Right click on the taskbar -> Settings -> Widgets toggle to OFF

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If websites don't want their content republished, they should use appropriate licenses restricting such uses. For example, Wikipedia licenses all encyclopedic text under CC BY-SA 3.0[1] and GFDL[2], both of which permit free-as-in-libre redistribution. [1]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Text_of_the_Creative... [2]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Text_of_the_GNU_Free...

This is akin to saying that licensing your code under the GPL will prevent GitHub's copilot from recreating it in a proprietary project. I wish it were true, but it's not.

A license won't stop others from stealing your stuff, but you will have legal standing to go after them when they do if you are so inclined.

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I have to use a windows PC sometimes and if I accidentally move my mouse to the bottom left of the screen a bunch of Bing News articles pop out telling me about 7 different people dying. I don’t know how to turn it off.

Right click on the taskbar -> Settings -> Widgets toggle to OFF

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Microsoft using blink/chromium is a good thing IMO. Once Apple is forced to open up iOS to other browsers, the blink/chromium monopoly will be complete. The only check on Google's ability to dictate what a web browser is will be the influence of companies like Microsoft, who are invested in blink/chromium and have the resources to potentially fork it if Google does something they don't like. I would not be surprised…

Your "dream" there fuels some of my nightmares. You may discount the potentially devasting threat of a possible massive ecological collapse from relying on one single implementation of web rendering because you don't think open source projects can die because "someone has the resources to potentially fork it", but open source is no guarantee. Beyond that, even discounting the threat of ecological collapse due to a si…

Can someone explain what's the whole deal with this "diversity" of browser engines?

Do people also like "diversity" in C++ compiler implementations with "diverse" quirks and bugs unique to each implementation? or the diversity of Python interpreters? What's the point other than incompatibility and head ache?

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Just waiting on Microsoft to tell me about hot singles in my area, and the trifecta will be complete

Youtube has been nagging me with ads about hot single moms in my area and I never ever used Youtube or Google or any browser where I was logged in with any personal account to search for anything "spicy" that would lead them to assume I'm into something like that. I always used a separate 'clean' browser without any accounts for those kinds of searches which I guess was probably not enough as Google simply matched my…

Fingerprinting targets your machine and maybe your gestures(?) If google trusts your IP more than your fingerprint, then VPN may help you to get away with it.

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Does it nag you constantly and do everything it can to steal data from you? I think lots of Microsoft products are now technically very good, but I don't like using them because they can't stop annoying me about stuff, and every time I turn my back are committing industrial espionage.

I haven't seen any nags at all. Chrome is notoriously the most anti-privacy browser in the top-flight; Edge generally has better privacy controls than Chrome. But, if you're comparing it to Brave or some others, you'll be disappointed if that is your main concern.

Edge is continually adding new invasive features. I've had the same policies set for Chrome for some time to remove any telemetry but Edge has a habit of turning things back on that were disabled and trying to push more junk. Chrome has not does this to me and I really don't think your point is accurate, at least not based on my experience and if you compare the two you'll definitely find Edge opting in to much more by default.

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Can anyone link a credible expert who thinks that LLMs could ever evolve into AGI? Every single source I’ve read said that while LLMs are competent at language and certain tasks, they are conceptually completely distinct from the basic components of an AGI. For example, they lack structured knowledge and metacognition.

John Carmack (ex Oculus, Id software) just had a really good interview about this: https://dallasinnovates.com/exclusive-qa-john-carmacks-diffe... To summarise: he thinks we've got most of the pieces now to maybe get within reach of a useful AGI (he likens it to a worker you instantiate in the cloud who can do tasks for you like a colleague) and I think he's saying some of the techniques used to make LLMs could be pa…

Calling Carmack a credible expert is a bit rich. He claims to have read a handful of papers. He's yet to do any significant, successful work in the field.

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Microsoft is using this announcement to get people to install "Bing Wallpaper" and a mobile app. That doesn't inspire confidence.

Just waiting on Microsoft to tell me about hot singles in my area, and the trifecta will be complete

Edge does this already.

Re: Microsoft announces new Bing and Edge browser powered by upgraded ChatGPT AI

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Wonder what the compute cost for this ends up being. My guess is they will have to somehow rate limit it - I’m sure the rollout speed will also depend how much people end up using it. Maybe they will figure out some ad revenue - but I don’t think they can charge users for this. Would love to know how much compute $ they’re willing to throw at this to attempt to topple Google. Probably whatever it takes (within reason…

Maybe searches just arent that unique and they will cache all but the long tail of answers

Not really possible to cache. The model takes as input the entire chat (or some version of personalized history i guess).

But it s more likely that bing will discriminate between simple "keyword queries" and elaborate quesitons

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