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Post by remarkEon »

chrisbaker98 wrote: post #705
cm2187 wrote: post #665

Earlier quoted context omitted.

These policies were always a pretext. The two major social networks blocking the same story at the same time citing different policies that are obviously inconsistently applied (did Twitter block the story about Trump's leaked tax returns? Did facebook block Biden when he claimed that covid would be gone once everyone was vaccinated?). These emails show twitter executives puzzled by the application of those policies.…

> citing different policies that are obviously inconsistently applied Here's a better example: the Canadian trucker protests. GiveSendGo was hacked, and the names of people who had donated to the protests were made public - and Twitter had no problem with those "hacked materials" being shared on its platform. I'd think that if there was ever a reason to block the publication of hacked materials, it would be to preven…

>(People, please don't reply to tell me why you didn't like the Canadian truckers' political views, it's not relevant.)

Oh but it is. You see, for the people who encourage this behavior, the hacking of the Canadian Truckers' protesters never happened and it was good that it did.

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Post by stu432 »

jpgvm wrote: post #684
hsn915 wrote: post #667

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Sorry to break it to you but there isn't any Leftists in America. Just the Center Right (Democrats) and the straight up crazy Far Right (GOP). This is plain as day from anyone outside of America and only seems to be lost on the Americans themselves.

Defund the police, reparations, affirmative action.... Yeah totally super right wing talking points in Europe.

Re: The Twitter Files

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Post by UberFly »

andreyk wrote: post #108

It does not seem like this really exposed any new information - Twitter publicly justified its actions as being about its hacked data policy back when this all happened ( https://www.nationalreview.com/news/twitter-cites-hacked-mat... ). All this shows is some internal disagreement as to whether that was the right call. By the way, Facebook also suppressed the news story citing its misinformation policy ( https://www…

Corrections and retractions published on page D-12 never make up for the days of A-1 news that turns out to be incorrect. The new information is the turmoil that was going on withing twitter as they knowingly applied their suppression mechanisms.

Re: The Twitter Files

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Post by dorkwood »

Keyframe wrote: post #701

I don't buy Jack Dorsey's innocence here. Something's off about that subplot.

It's strange that it was mentioned multiple times, "Jack Dorsey knew nothing about this", without any supporting evidence. Every other claim seemed to have an associated screenshot to back it up. Why not that one?

Re: The Twitter Files

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Post by Dudelander »

cm2187 wrote: post #665
andreyk wrote: post #108

It does not seem like this really exposed any new information - Twitter publicly justified its actions as being about its hacked data policy back when this all happened ( https://www.nationalreview.com/news/twitter-cites-hacked-mat... ). All this shows is some internal disagreement as to whether that was the right call. By the way, Facebook also suppressed the news story citing its misinformation policy ( https://www…

These policies were always a pretext. The two major social networks blocking the same story at the same time citing different policies that are obviously inconsistently applied (did Twitter block the story about Trump's leaked tax returns? Did facebook block Biden when he claimed that covid would be gone once everyone was vaccinated?). These emails show twitter executives puzzled by the application of those policies.…

None of that stuff is against the rules. New York Times articles and overly optimistic predictions do not constitute private information or misinformation. Just because you don't like them doesn't mean they violate the TOS.

Also, nothing that Snowden released was publicly available, but Biden's staffers were using tools that were available to the general public in the way they were intended. They're completely unrelated.

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Post by misnome »

hgfdhgdfhgdf wrote: post #579
ajross wrote: post #438

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> This rubs me the wrong way, nobody in government should be telling Twitter to remove speech. Uh... Biden wasn't in government. It's so weird seeing all the posters in this thread arguing simultaneously that The Real Problem here is government control over the media and citing as evidence the fact that Twitter bent to the whims of someone not in government . I mean, why is government control such a big deal when pri…

It's weirder to use the false equivalence to equate Biden with a typical private citizen. The typical private citizen does not have the same power to suppress stories on Twitter.

The typical private citizen can click the “Report” button. They just can’t email a list of tweets to report directly to the review team. Apparently this private citizen could do that, as could the sitting president.

Re: The Twitter Files

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Post by chrisbaker98 »

MBCook wrote: post #393

There is another way to look at this. So Elon posted today he would drop important inside info about the Hunter Biden story the right wing loves so much. And they seemed thrilled and are now debating the “new” info. That’s an interesting turn from yesterday when that same group was pissed at him for going back on his free speech/no censorship claims when he kicked Kanye off. How surprisingly lucky for him he did some…

> going back on his free speech/no censorship claims when he kicked Kanye off.

What's Elon done here that's inconsistent or hypocritical? He's never claimed to be a free speech absolutist (no-one is a free speech absolutist), nor did he say he was going to turn Twitter into a free-for-all for anyone can post anything with no moderation. Kanye posted literal Nazi content; he clearly violated Twitter's stated policies against hate speech and earned the ban.

Re: The Twitter Files

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Post by chrisbaker98 »

boc wrote: post #576
unnamed76ri wrote: post #24

Just a couple weeks ago I had a comment downvoted and flagged for saying what this confirms. The political bias in tech circles is unreal sometimes.

Nobody on the left cares about protecting Hunter Biden. IF he broke any laws, then he should be in jail. AFAIK, there's no current legal case against him. What you're seeing here is the "left" learning to not take everything the right screams about at face value. They watched Hillary get dragged through the mud with Benghazi over absolutely nothing of substance, including months of Congressional hearings. Thus this n…

What was actually on Hunter Biden's laptop? Can someone give me a link to a succinct, non-partisan list of facts?

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Post by rvz »

nodesocket wrote: post #606

How come I can't find this story on the front page of: - CNN - CNBC - New York Times - LA Times However, stories about how people are "fleeing" Twitter, Twitter is losing more advertising revenue, and Kanye are readily on the front pages?

Good question.

The mainstream media are more interested in spreading outrage or their own narrative that reinforces their confirmation bias to grift their readers for ad clicks and affiliate links than to uncover the truth.

As soon as one narrative is being constantly peddled by multiple sources, it makes it highly suspicious and likely that something else is going on that is not being reported.

Most of these ‘news sources’ don’t even question or correct each other and just parrot and relay their own articles as the truth.

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Post by justsomeadvice0 »

rpmisms wrote: post #715
justsomeadvice0 wrote: post #702

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Here are the parts of the statement I am disappointed with, to clarify, emphasis mine: > *This system wasn't balanced.* It was based on contacts. ... there were more channels, more ways to complain, open to the left (well, Democrats) than the right. I can certainly agree with the fact that 90+% of Big Tech employees vote Democrat (I'm not sure what "non-coder" has to do with it). 100% true. I have worked at large cor…

> I'm not sure what "non-coder" has to do with it In my experience, engineers are more likely to be pragmatic people, which is more of a right-wing/libertarian trait. This is not a constant. > Within 24 hours, the decision is overridden and it is made clear who the real agenda-setters are at most Big Tech. It is overridden quietly, with no apology or acknowledgement of the harm they did. If this was something anyone…

So the big scandal, the thing to get upset about here, Elon's dramatic reveal: is that Twitter's leaders "didn't care" enough?

If you listen carefully, behind the crickets, you can hear the goalposts moving.

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