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Musk’s inner circle worked through weekend to cement Twitter layoff plans

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Re: Musk’s inner circle worked through weekend to cement Twitter layoff plans

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Post by epgui »

vore wrote: post #719
memish wrote: post #655

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Context is important. He was responding to a dubious claim with a dubious claim.

Is there context beyond the "There is a tiny possibility there might be more to this story than meets the eye" tweet he posted? I think if that's the only context reasonably you can interpret that a number of ways: it responding to a dubious claim with a dubious claim is not the only way.

That's exactly what I think: there's too much uncertainty around what he meant by that. So I refer to the principle of charitable interpretation.

Re: Musk’s inner circle worked through weekend to cement Twitter layoff plans

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Post by stonogo »

IG_Semmelweiss wrote: post #713
spaced-out wrote: post #697

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>The downside of employee protections is that it makes companies more reluctant to hire. And also once hired, the salary to be offered is reduced to cover the estimated current value of the future employee protections. Yep, that why software engineers in California and New York, where there are a lot of employee protections, don't get paid as much as SWEs in the Midwest or the South, where there are less... Right? Or…

I'd like to open up this question again after some decades. I don't think it will play out as you might think. Innovation hubs move. Historically, this has always been true. Right now those are SV and NY. It won't remain so.

Silicon Valley, New York, and arguably Texas have been the hubs of computing innovation as long as there has been a commercial computer industry. Other tech hubs have sprung up, but we're looking at forty years of unceasing domination here. Innovation hubs move when new industries arise.

Re: Musk’s inner circle worked through weekend to cement Twitter layoff plans

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Post by kcplate »

DangitBobby wrote: post #693
kcplate wrote: post #546

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> There are states in the US where teacher's unions are out-lawed. That’s a bold statement. Care to back it up?

2nd link on Kagi search (first one says the same things): 1. https://www.businessinsider.com/states-where-teachers-unions...

Outlawing collective bargaining might make unions less effective, but it doesn’t make unions illegal.

Re: Musk’s inner circle worked through weekend to cement Twitter layoff plans

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Post by pcbro141 »

themitigating wrote: post #652
mcguire wrote: post #323

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Are you taking something Elon Musk said seriously?

Remember when he said he would buy Twitter? What a lark!

Well he did basically have to be forced to actually buy it.

Re: Musk’s inner circle worked through weekend to cement Twitter layoff plans

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Post by unityByFreedom »

canadiantim wrote: post #551
iammjm wrote: post #481

I used to be a big Musk fan. But the longer it gets, the more i start to dislike him. He starts turning into a Mad King

I’m the opposite. Never was a Musk fan but now that I see him trying to reform twitter I’m very impressed he’s willing to take so much flak for such a direly needed goal.

Just gonna end up censoring what he doesn't like

Re: Musk’s inner circle worked through weekend to cement Twitter layoff plans

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Post by tootie »

H8crilA wrote: post #339

So, it was a simple corporate raid after all. Welcome back to the 70s: energy markets problems, inflation, and now finally some good old corporate raiding with LBOs. PS. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corporate_raid

Raids are typically distressed companies that are squeezed for every asset and sold for parts. Not buying a thriving enterprise and driving into the ground. He paid a premium for Twitter and is probably $10B in the hole already. This has to be a sincere attempt to increase profitability. Just seems like a really bad one. Conspiracy theory is that owns a wad of that Truth Social SPAC and every dollar he drains from Twitter goes there.

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Post by kenjackson »

WalterBright wrote: post #632
kenjackson wrote: post #576

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If increased employee protection causes you to layoff almost everyone in a country -- you probably had little good business reason to be in that country. Employee protection exists because there's a huge power imbalance. A company who can constantly just say, "we'll fire you if this doesn't get done" and colludes with other companies on such matters makes it very difficult for workers. This is why employee protection…

Whether it does or does not protect them, employees will pay for these protections in the form of lowered salary and fewer jobs available. Nothing comes for free.

Maybe fewer jobs, but probably not lower salaries. Collusion would likely would cut into salaries a fair bit.

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Post by CobaltFire »

nwienert wrote: post #675
matai_kolila wrote: post #662

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That article has nothing to do with what I said. Twitter is not banning people for posting conservative viewpoints.

You said that’s not what happened in reply to me, and I cited that it did happen. I’m just backing up my own assertions, nothing to do with you. And they certainly banned plenty of conservatives for their views. It was just first framed as “misinformation” and then banned. Examples include Covid skepticism, Hunters laptop, and honestly a litany more.

COVID skepticism is… I mean COVID is real?

Hunter Biden’s laptop? The laptop that no one can produce, that there are no records existed, and supposedly copies of the data exist but aren’t being looked at for reasons?

Those aren’t the slam dunk arguments you seem to think they are.

Re: Musk’s inner circle worked through weekend to cement Twitter layoff plans

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Post by tootie »

memish wrote: post #655
jimt1234 wrote: post #619

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I still have a lot of respect for Musk as bold business exec. But my respect for him as a person dropped to near-zero when he promoted the baseless conspiracy theory about Paul Pelosi.

Context is important. He was responding to a dubious claim with a dubious claim.

No. He responded to a reasonable opinion with an assertion of lies from a well known propagandist.
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