Lithuania evacuates its embassy in China • Hacker News Board

Re: Lithuania evacuates its embassy in China

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Post by CRConrad » Sat, Dec 25, 2021, 2:12 PM UTC

dang wrote: post #719

CRConrad wrote: post #710

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> an appropriate response would be to refute bad arguments with better arguments and/or incorrect information with correct information Isn't that just demanding that everyone surrender to a shill's Gish gallop?

I'd need to see specific links. It's difficult to answer that generically, because who people call a 'shill' varies so much, and it's unquestionably the case that people frequently apply such terms to other commenters who in fact are posting in good faith. On the internet, someone having a sufficiently different background from you, and someone posting in bad faith, are basically indistinguishable. I can't resist say…

> I'd need to see specific links. It's difficult to answer that generically

Sorry, no links; I was asking generically. (Though a couple pro-PRC guys on this page feel pretty close.)

> the time-honored internet adage explains what do to: don't feed the trolls. I would never underestimate the wisdom of that advice. It may be the wisest thing the internet has ever said.

Yup. (Well, immediately after anything posted by me, of course.) Sometimes hard to remember, though: Provocateurs provoke.

Anyway, forget all that for a while, and have a merry Christmas!

Re: Lithuania evacuates its embassy in China

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Post by CRConrad » Sat, Dec 25, 2021, 2:14 PM UTC

stirfish wrote: post #713

CRConrad wrote: post #712

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True dat. And yet, he persisted... Now onwards, my gallant Rocinante!

Outmaneuver them. Let meme mean "jpeg screenshot from facebook" and choose a new, cooler word for meme. I'll even call it a "onrad" if you want.

Thanks, but no thanks: sounds a bit too close to Onan for my tastes.

Re: Lithuania evacuates its embassy in China

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Post by mthoms » Wed, Dec 29, 2021, 4:28 AM UTC

FooBarWidget wrote: post #717

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This is our 6th (or so) exchange on this matter and the first time you've even acknowledged that the crying wording exists (!). I've asked you what you think of the crying over and over and you repeatedly answer in vague terms like "people are free to listen to me if they want...", but never, not once , answering the very direct, very specific, and very simple question. What do you make of the crying? Do you not see…

As someone who also has a close woman friend who suffered such assault, and as someone who has even discussed the Peng Shuai issue with multiple women, I find your willingness to take a pitchfork to go after imaginary enemies to be sickening. Okay you know what, this time I'll tell you why I was reluctant to answer. The first part is: because I don't trust you! Here, just look at this sentence: > It's you who support…

>This is a huge misrepresentation of my (much more nuanced and complex) position. If you do good research into my Twitter history will you find multiple points where I disagree with CCP. But the fact that you disregard such facts, and choose to misrepresent me as "supporting CCP in almost all commentary", is telling.

You've said this a few times so I'm going to call you on it.

Can you point to a few examples? Specifically, do any of your Twitter posts disagree with the CCP's official stance on censorship, human rights, international relations, international boundaries, democracy, Hong Kong, Taiwan or Tiananmen Square? Are any of your comments critical of specific, highly ranking CCP officials?

Or, are your comments limited to economic policy and other similarly non-controversial issues?

You've repeatedly touted how critical you are of the CCP on Twitter as proof that your opinion is not one-sided, so I'm looking forward to your response.

Re: Lithuania evacuates its embassy in China

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Post by mthoms » Wed, Dec 29, 2021, 4:35 AM UTC

FooBarWidget wrote: post #718

FooBarWidget wrote: post #717

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As someone who also has a close woman friend who suffered such assault, and as someone who has even discussed the Peng Shuai issue with multiple women, I find your willingness to take a pitchfork to go after imaginary enemies to be sickening. Okay you know what, this time I'll tell you why I was reluctant to answer. The first part is: because I don't trust you! Here, just look at this sentence: > It's you who support…

And actually, now that I think about, even this is another example of you grossly misrepresenting me: > and the first time you've even acknowledged that the crying wording exists(!) Go back and read what I wrote in verbatim! I wrote: > There is no doubt that Zhao is a manipulative jerk and that he engaged in unacceptable questionable acts. "unacceptable acts" include that which make her cry! I didn't "omit" saying th…

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Re: Lithuania evacuates its embassy in China

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Post by dang » Thu, Dec 30, 2021, 6:17 PM UTC

clove wrote: post #687

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Hey I notice you're getting downvoted a lot. Wanna get in touch? Find my contact details in my profile. Twitter preferred

Recruiting more pro-CCP shills out in the open? You're slipping.

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Re: Lithuania evacuates its embassy in China

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Post by dang » Thu, Dec 30, 2021, 6:17 PM UTC

clove wrote: post #686

FooBarWidget wrote: post #520

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China does not have that much of a problem with the status quo. The status quo with the One China Policy has worked very well for decades. In fact, 2015, right before the DPP got to power, could be regarded as the height of cross-straight relations. Things only started going sour after the DPP started making moves towards true independence, and after the US sent increasing numbers of warships to China's back yard. It…

You are possibly the dumbest person on HN.

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Re: Lithuania evacuates its embassy in China

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Post by dang » Thu, Dec 30, 2021, 6:18 PM UTC

clove wrote: post #685

FooBarWidget wrote: post #647

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Yes it was a typo. My bad :(

Hope your social credit score doesn't get dinged for this.

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