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Re: President Daniels responds to Chinese student's harassment

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this is exactly the white savior crap that much of the world hates from the US. the sheer arrogance to think that even a significant fraction of Taiwanese would be interested in moving to America, let alone the entire populace.

And then the gall to suggest _Ohio, the Mojave, and Alaska_. Bit on the nose, don't you think?

I don't understand how you think this rhetoric helps anyone. I guess it lets Americans puff out their chest?

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> Public space alcohol consumption is one of the weirdest metrics I’ve seen to gauge freedom. How so? It seems to me that the people's ability to use and enjoy public spaces as they fit (of course unless they intrude on other people's freedom) is at the very heart of what I consider freedom. > And of course, you’re free to drink privately. And of course you're free to express your opinion privately, at home, when no…

The reason many municipalities ban public drunkenness is because it intrudes upon other people's freedom. Very many people tend to behave badly while drunk!

Ah, a preemptive punishment for all! The very heart of what I would call freedom! Wonderful!

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What is the end game in allowing PROC nationals into American universities? Even without a kinetic confrontation, current trends indicate PROC will dominate the world economy, ocean navigation, the African and part of South American continents, near Earth orbit and the Moon because of technology they've already stolen, downloaded, misappropriated and bought from the West --and they're known to be creating bioweapons…

"creating bioweapons that kill only non-Chinese people"? I've never heard of this before...

How would that even work? There isn’t a gene for Chinese citizenship that would impact any disease or illness.

…I’m unfortunately assuming the poster is making a bad-faith reference to COVID-19. Some conspiracy theorists have been labeling it a bio weapon and ignoring the deaths from the initial outbreak.

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At the end of the day, it's a stretch to assume the students did anything other than wield their rights to free speech on an American (or other western) campus. Anti CCP activities, on campus or elsewhere in west makes it way through PRC media bubbles with of millions of eyeballs willing to do the dirty work, frequently within PRC soil. All it takes is for a post to trend. Freedom of speech in west =/= freedom from c…

> it's a stretch to assume the students did anything other No, because at least one (edit: two!) incidents like this has already repeatedly happened elsewhere. Chinese students sabotaged a panel at Brandeis University about Uyghurs ("Viewers interrupted a Harvard-educated lawyer as she tried to describe her brother’s plight in a concentration camp, scrawling “bullshit” and “fake news” over his face on the screen and…

> e.g. yelling "fire" in a crowded theater

The legal argument behind that concept isn't that "yelling fire in a crowded theater" is about the particular utterance but that it was a metaphor for the government's legal ability to restrict free-speech when it presents a "clear and present danger".

The legal case where the metaphor was introduced was a unanimous decision allow charging some under the espionage act for pamphleteering against the draft in WWI. It considered among the worst Supreme Court decisions, has been partially overturned and is an odd example to reference when arguing that these "edge-cases" don't amount to real restrictions on speech. This particular "edge-case" decision upheld the criminal prosecution of anti-war activists for their speech.

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200 were enrolled this fall. The article says elsewhere that "Of the over 45,000 students enrolled at campus, 5,196 are of Asian ethnicity", though it's not clear how many of them are from China.

Keep in mind that 7.2% of the total population of the United States identifies as Asian ethnicity. There's no reason to expect that most of Purdue's Asian students are from China .

I found a Purdue pdf that states international students comprised of 20% of Purdue's student body in 2019. "China ranks first (3250) in total enrollment while India (2156) is second." Source: https://www.purdue.edu/IPPU/ISS/_Documents/EnrollmentReport/...

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This is an independent website, not part of the official University budget. You can’t just round up some CS students and have them produce a website compliant with international law for free. This involves legal teams, contracted developers, and constrained budgets that are already stretched thin on operating in their core business. It’s not reasonable to demand they invest tens of thousands of dollars (or demand equ…

> You can’t just round up some CS students and have them produce a website compliant with international law for free. But the issue isn't "international law" in the general case (which, indeed, would be very hard), it's the specific case of the GDPR, the solution to which (for this particular site, which only serves static content) is mind-numbingly trivial: don't collect personal data, don't set cookies. That's it.…

You're only talking about the technial part. But there are non technical requirements as well: In many cases you need to name a person responsible for data protection, a privacy policy, a list of services you're sharing data with,...

Though I'm not sure if a local US newspaper even needs to be compliant, since it doesn't target EU residents and thus might be out of scope.

Re: President Daniels responds to Chinese student's harassment

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> 451: Unavailable due to legal reasons A touch over dramatic, verging on smug given that it’s a nerd in-joke. (If you didn’t know, this HTTP status code is a tongue in cheek reference to the dystopian sci-fi novel Fahrenheit 451 where information is outlawed.) I could elaborate but unfortunately due to our safety and security policies I am unable to comment further. Your wellbeing is my number one priority.

> A touch over dramatic, verging on smug given that it’s a nerd in-joke.

I don't see how it's dramatic or smug at all.

451 is an improvement on the vague 403 forbidden status code, and is specified in RFC 7725, a standards track document:

https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/rfc7725

This isn't an inside joke that someone just made up, other than someone (Timothy Bray?) choosing this particular constant out of the remaining unused 4xx series.

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This story sounds doubtful to me. It's perfectly OK for a Chinese to say that they are from Taiwan, and Chinese, be it from the mainland or Taiwan, always say that: They're from Taiwan, Beijing, Guangdong, you name it. It's like saying which state you're from in the US. No-one ever says "Chinese Taipei", certainly not among Chinese, which is just some political compromise, mostly in the Olympic Committee. The only is…

I think you're over-literally interpreting what above poster said. Above poster probably doesn't speak Mandarin so their retelling might be missing some nuance.

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Please do not take HN threads further into political, ideological, and partisan flamewar. It's just what we don't want here. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

I apologize for that.

Re: President Daniels responds to Chinese student's harassment

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"The time I spend in the US I had the feeling that you have more of a pseudo freedom than actual freedom. " Having grown up in Germany and now living in the US I think in the US you can have more freedom if you are willing to live outside the boundaries of the life the average citizen has. If you are willing to live off the grid you can be pretty free. Some people think freedom also means the right to not have health…

Interesting perspective, though I'd like some detail around the 'worry about getting shot' comment. I'm in my 50s and have lived in the US all but 2 of my years, and have never been concerned about getting shot (in the US or abroad.) In what kind of situations have you found yourself that you've actively had this worry?

I had a situation where almost every morning a guy with big work truck would pass us extremely closely at full speed while we were walking our dog. The road didn’t have sidewalks so usually cars would slow down or change sides but this guy didn’t. We tried to wave to him to slow down which only resulted in him swerving towards us so we had to jump off the road. One day I stood in the middle of the road and made him stop. I explained the situation to him and he was extremely aggressive and threatened to beat me up. I told him he can try but should think about the consequences first. After a while he backed off. I called his employer and never saw him again.

When i told this story to some people they told me that I would have had a real problem if he had had a gun. That’s probably true.

In Germany you usually can assume that even bad guys don’t have a gun but in the US you have to assume that every idiot has a gun. This brings confrontations quickly to a dangerous level.

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