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TikTok overtakes Facebook as most downloaded app

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Re: TikTok overtakes Facebook as most downloaded app

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> But who would want to build something that (if you read the comments here!) is only seen with scorn? > An open-source TikTok alternative that communities can sprout it would be awesome. And for that to happen, we need to talk about what makes TikTok good. Because creating a clone with all of the downsides is easy. Figuring out what made it the #1 app, I believe, is the most important part if you want TikTok to go a…

My oppression. I'm a neurodivergent/queer creator on TikTok. You're trying to speak on my behalf here, so maybe listen to what I'm trying to yell you? And it's that yes, TikTok does have plenty of "magic dust" that no other platform has. I know of Matrix/Mastodon, and sorry, but that tech stack is waaaaay too far off the mark. They barely cut it as Slack/Facebook replacements. Google and Facebook also have money. Wha…

> You're trying to speak on my behalf here, so maybe listen to what I'm trying to yell you?

I'm a queer creator, I'm speaking for nobody but myself here. In fact, you're the only one that's trying to get me to change your opinion so far. I frankly don't care how much you love TikTok (since I could find a school bus full of people who share the same opinion any day of the working week), but I do want you to understand why myself (as well as many other queer privacy/security advocates) are recommending that people avoid it like the plague.

> TikTok enables and encouraged everyone to be a creator in a way that no other platform currently does.

Sure. Their growth is dependent on your devotion to their app, so I don't doubt that they do their best to reduce 'inner circle' friction.

> Did it not occur to you that TikTok must have brought something new to the table to get to that spot?

To my knowledge, TikTok actually became popular because it did nothing new. Once Musical.ly went away, there needed to be a competitor that could also pay the insane license fees for the popular songs you see all over those apps. Since nobody else had that kind of money, the only viable competitor standing was the CCP, who could afford to piss money away ad-infinitum if it was going towards the oppression of marginalized groups

> please at least use that app for a week to get some firsthand knowledge

Hell no! I'm not going to use Facebook for a week to confirm that I dislike it, or reinstall MacOS for a week just to re-discover that everything I love broke after Mojave.

I'm done arguing about this (just got back from a 3 day power outage), but TikTok doesn't make me any less depressed to see proliferate. I hope you enjoy yourself, regardless.

Re: TikTok overtakes Facebook as most downloaded app

#722

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> But who would want to build something that (if you read the comments here!) is only seen with scorn? > An open-source TikTok alternative that communities can sprout it would be awesome. And for that to happen, we need to talk about what makes TikTok good. Because creating a clone with all of the downsides is easy. Figuring out what made it the #1 app, I believe, is the most important part if you want TikTok to go a…

My oppression. I'm a neurodivergent/queer creator on TikTok. You're trying to speak on my behalf here, so maybe listen to what I'm trying to yell you? And it's that yes, TikTok does have plenty of "magic dust" that no other platform has. I know of Matrix/Mastodon, and sorry, but that tech stack is waaaaay too far off the mark. They barely cut it as Slack/Facebook replacements. Google and Facebook also have money. Wha…

Please don't take HN threads further into flamewar. We're trying for the opposite on this site.

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Re: TikTok overtakes Facebook as most downloaded app

#723

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My oppression. I'm a neurodivergent/queer creator on TikTok. You're trying to speak on my behalf here, so maybe listen to what I'm trying to yell you? And it's that yes, TikTok does have plenty of "magic dust" that no other platform has. I know of Matrix/Mastodon, and sorry, but that tech stack is waaaaay too far off the mark. They barely cut it as Slack/Facebook replacements. Google and Facebook also have money. Wha…

> You're trying to speak on my behalf here, so maybe listen to what I'm trying to yell you? I'm a queer creator, I'm speaking for nobody but myself here. In fact, you're the only one that's trying to get me to change your opinion so far. I frankly don't care how much you love TikTok (since I could find a school bus full of people who share the same opinion any day of the working week), but I do want you to understand…

Please don't take HN threads further into flamewar. We're trying for the opposite on this site.

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

Re: TikTok overtakes Facebook as most downloaded app

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Despite this claim tiktok seems like it pushes some the least outrage machine type stuff. At least my feed is filled with interesting folks. HN is going down the road too now of the google is horrible, apple is horrible, facebook is horrible type headlines. I don't necessarily disagree - but... boring? Repetitive? There are never any positive suggestions any more (ie, here's how apple should screen for CASM). It's ju…

> Interesting folks Mind posting some examples? I find it recommends lots of useless stuff. I know the rebuttal - it learns what you're interested in - but I can still tell you there are lots of vapid people and videos on it.

That's what people enjoy I think. Much less serious outrage, serious preaching.

Lots of cooking, dancing, music, laughing.

Re: TikTok overtakes Facebook as most downloaded app

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It didn’t cost a dollar a lot of the time on iOS. Very few people ever paid for Whatsapp.

Most people on the planet don't use ios, and in 2016 when whatsapp had, IIRC about 900 million users was about when they cancelled it. It's fair to assume a lot of people paid that dollar.

If you look back at just HN anecdotes from past threads. The majority of people talk about never paying anything. On any platform. Since again, I was only talking about iOS in my post. But Android “charged” after a year too. So pointing out Android doesn’t change anything
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