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Re: 2022 Ford F-150 Lightning

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There’s a lot of stereotyping of truck owners going on in this thread which is kind of funny given how pro-EV HN normally is. It’s like the aesthetics of a pickup truck is offensive to some people. Kind of bizarre and not something I’m used to seeing but I guess I live in Ohio so that probably has something to do with it. A lot of people just want to move stuff, they don’t want to like…burn your house down while wear…

> kind of funny given how pro-EV HN normally is

Pro-Tesla, ftfy.

Re: 2022 Ford F-150 Lightning

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I see a lot of "rent one for a day" type of comments. I paid $4k for a 93 F150 a couple of years ago. I live on a 1/4 acre lot in the suburbs and just the amount of stuff I've hauled to my small property over the last two years would've far surpassed the $4k in rental charges. Mulch, compost, rocks, lumber, etc. Lots of back and forth with not knowing whether I'll need more or not... so many unknowns in-between. Take…

All of the "just rent a truck for the day" comments are from city dwellers who can't imagine a lifestyle different from their own.

I wonder how many of them NEED all the fancy computers they own? (I know I don't.)

Re: 2022 Ford F-150 Lightning

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post #233

There’s a lot of stereotyping of truck owners going on in this thread which is kind of funny given how pro-EV HN normally is. It’s like the aesthetics of a pickup truck is offensive to some people. Kind of bizarre and not something I’m used to seeing but I guess I live in Ohio so that probably has something to do with it. A lot of people just want to move stuff, they don’t want to like…burn your house down while wear…

I live in more or less the country too. I just find an SUV handier day to day and week to week. Some things I have to put on the roof or take a short drive home with the rear hatch partially ajar. I could rent a trailer or have something delivered. Or I could borrow a pickup. I just find the interior space is more generally useful than having an open bed every now and then.

Re: 2022 Ford F-150 Lightning

#725

The owners will be caught off guard with the horrible range for truck activities (towing, driving in rough terrain, climbing hills, carrying cargo). On the other hand I suspect that significant fraction of the trucks are just used for commuting in flat suburbia so range will not matter.

Why would low speed high torque operation be bad for range? Are the electric motors less efficient at lower speeds? Hill climbing and off roading probably has bad gas mileage too?

Re: 2022 Ford F-150 Lightning

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post #233

There’s a lot of stereotyping of truck owners going on in this thread which is kind of funny given how pro-EV HN normally is. It’s like the aesthetics of a pickup truck is offensive to some people. Kind of bizarre and not something I’m used to seeing but I guess I live in Ohio so that probably has something to do with it. A lot of people just want to move stuff, they don’t want to like…burn your house down while wear…

There are two types of truck owners: those who do truck things and those who show off. The latter are mostly what I call 'house' truck owners, most they might do is pick up a desk or chair.

The first thing I did when moving to a rural area was to get a F-150. I plow my own driveway. I pick up dirt by the yard for lawn/garden use. Tow. Get big things. I look back now three years later and am thankful I did not waste any coin on a bed cover as I'd be very tired of putting it on and taking it off. Living nearly two miles in on a dirt road I only bother washing the truck twice a year as 'clean' is very fleeting.

The issue with this e-F150 is the low payload and tow capacity of the standard models. Think I'm rated 2350 payload and 13K tow on an out the door $44k XLT supercab.

Re: 2022 Ford F-150 Lightning

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It's simple: Ford will sell a shit ton of these. Killer feature: onboard power for external devices. This will be huge for the trades--and the trades are a primary target market for Ford trucks.

I don’t think not needing a portable generator on small construction sites is going to be a big driver of sales.

Sales will be driven by the same factors as Tesla’s, no c02 emissions, don’t have to buy gas. Everything else is bonus

Re: 2022 Ford F-150 Lightning

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post #233

There’s a lot of stereotyping of truck owners going on in this thread which is kind of funny given how pro-EV HN normally is. It’s like the aesthetics of a pickup truck is offensive to some people. Kind of bizarre and not something I’m used to seeing but I guess I live in Ohio so that probably has something to do with it. A lot of people just want to move stuff, they don’t want to like…burn your house down while wear…

> A lot of people just want to move stuff I suspect most people with big trucks rarely use them for moving stuff. Not to say they never do, but from my observations owning a big truck has a lot more to do with signaling a certain status to others who value big trucks.

Not to say, of course, that owning an EV, a hybrid, or a Geo Metro (or a converted hearse with a Pratt & Whitney aircraft engine in the back) has nothing to do with signaling status....
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