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YouTube-dl has received a DMCA takedown from RIAA

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Re: YouTube-dl has received a DMCA takedown from RIAA

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Post by porjo »

I guess it was only a matter of time, the more popular it became. I have Youtube Premium and still use this utility every day for legitimate reasons (converting talk videos to audio file that I can listen to offline). Sad day for youtube-dl but I expect there will be many contenders to fill the void.

Re: YouTube-dl has received a DMCA takedown from RIAA

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Post by lettergram »

red_admiral wrote: post #186
eli wrote: post #158

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think you are misunderstanding the legal argument. The DMCA Section 1201 specifically prohibits (among other things) technology that "is marketed ... for use in circumventing a technological measure that effectively controls access to a work protected under this title." The example in the README is evidence of this. The argument is that youtube-dl is primarily used for breaking DRM not just that it could be used fo…

Calling the thing youtube-dl in the first place rather than GenericDownloadHelper or something like that could, I guess, be seen as marketing it for a specific purpose.

No reason it can’t be hosted elsewhere with that name after a fork.

Re: YouTube-dl has received a DMCA takedown from RIAA

#725

Post by angry_octet »

Udo wrote: post #541
jaspergilley wrote: post #33

You can download the most recent version of the YouTube-DL code from Wayback Machine here: https://web.archive.org/web/20201018144703/https://github.co... Fuck the RIAA

That doesn't matter. As development stops, youtube-dl will stop being able to download videos in a matter of months (at best). This is an extremely brittle system that relies on youtube-dl being one step ahead of Youtube at all times. Without further development, the next update to Youtube's site will break the tool. It was really a matter of time. I'm sure most of us were already amazed it lasted this long - and it…

While they may have made collaborative development more difficult for the moment, what hasn't changed is the strong motivation from a wide range of technical people to be able to download whatever they can watch in a browser. Something will rise from the ashes.

Re: YouTube-dl has received a DMCA takedown from RIAA

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Post by l0b0 »

I tried cloning the various forks mentioned in these threads. Summarized, I did this:

  $ git clone https://salsa.debian.org/debian/youtube-dl
  $ cd youtube-dl
  $ git remote rename origin salsa-debian-org
  $ git remote add -f code-hackerspace-pl https://code.hackerspace.pl/q3k/youtube-dl
  $ git remote add -f git-technik-io https://git.teknik.io/ytdl-org/youtube-dl
  $ git remote add -f ytld-org https://gitlab.com/ytdl-org/youtube-dl
  $ git remote add -f gitea-eponym-info https://gitea.eponym.info/Mirrors/youtube-dl.git
  $ git remote add -f gitee-com https://gitee.com/mirrors/youtube-downloader.git
Basically, it looks like https://gitee.com/mirrors/youtube-downloader.git is the most up to date.

The start of the log looks like this:

  $ git log --all --decorate --graph -n2
  * commit 416da574ec0df3388f652e44f7fe71b1e3a4701f (gitee-com/master)
  | Author: Sergey M․ 
  | Date:   Fri Oct 23 21:31:37 2020 +0700
  | 
  |     [ytsearch] Fix extraction (closes #26920)
  | 
  * commit 48c5663c5f7dd9ecc4720f7c1522627665197939 (ytld-org/master, gitea-eponym-info/master, git-technik-io/master, code-hackerspace-pl/master)
  | Author: Toan Nguyen 
  | Date:   Thu Oct 22 19:15:05 2020 +0700
  | 
  |     [afreecatv] Fix typo (#26970)
The salsa.debian.org repo seems to have diverged a long time ago (commit db29af6d36b3d16614355dac70f22c4f2d8410d2 in 2016??).

Re: YouTube-dl has received a DMCA takedown from RIAA

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Post by arvindamirtaa »

pmoriarty wrote: post #638
larrik wrote: post #105

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The fact that copyrighted works were included in the readme shows it was intended for that use, and the RIAA complaint will likely stand up to any legal scrutiny. Just because it can be used for legit purposes too won't matter in the slightest. I mean, Napster could have been used for legal means as well, and it got destroyed in court. The only chance tools like this have legally is when infringement is an "unintende…

"Napster could have been used for legal means as well, and it got destroyed in court." But Napster was a service run by an organization. youtube-dl is neither a service nor an organization. It's just some source code floating around the internet, to which volunteers contribute to. A very different situation. If anything, it's Youtube itself that's like Napster, and it's telling that the RIAA has gone after youtube-dl…

RIAA definitely does go after Google. They file countless DMCA takedowns on videos that re-upload content from official accounts.

Unlike Napster, Google just complies and hence doesn't have much of a case against it like Napster did.

Re: YouTube-dl has received a DMCA takedown from RIAA

#729

Post by arvindamirtaa »

polote wrote: post #676
larrik wrote: post #105

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The fact that copyrighted works were included in the readme shows it was intended for that use, and the RIAA complaint will likely stand up to any legal scrutiny. Just because it can be used for legit purposes too won't matter in the slightest. I mean, Napster could have been used for legal means as well, and it got destroyed in court. The only chance tools like this have legally is when infringement is an "unintende…

> The fact that copyrighted works were included in the readme shows it was intended for that use How could that be true? if the YouTube link in the test case was a video of farmer on his truck would that show it is intended for that use? No. YouTube dl is made to download any YouTube videos it has not been made to download specifically Taylor Swift music videos, it just has just been picked as a test case as any othe…

While I agree with the point, a strong case can be made that the music video in the README and the test case were a poor choice.

A silly home video, preferably uploaded by the maintainers themselves would've just given RIAA's claim no teeth.

Re: YouTube-dl has received a DMCA takedown from RIAA

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Post by bArray »

iruoy wrote: post #625
bArray wrote: post #612

I would like to add to the discussion that there are many perfectly legal uses of YoutubeDL: * Downloading a video you uploaded and no longer have stored locally. * Downloading a video to create a fair-use response video. * Downloading video/music that is free commons (or some other non-restrictive license). * (Gray) Downloading content to archive it. * Downloading content you have already purchased and have in your…

That server is a little busy since it's been mentioned here. I've copied that repo to these locations: https://gitlab.com/ytdl-org/youtube-dl https://git.teknik.io/ytdl-org/youtube-dl If a maintainer would like top aquire these orgs just message me. If anyone has an up to date repo of the github pages repo that'd be great too.

> If anyone has an up to date repo of the github pages repo

> that'd be great too.

The webpage seems to be still up [1], it should be possible to grab those resources.

The releases can be rebuilt from the tags - the only other thing is the issue tracking. It would be a super pain to lose 3.3k issues (and the discussions they contain) [2].

[1] https://yt-dl.org/

[2] https://web.archive.org/web/20201018144509/https://github.co...

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