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Re: iPhone 12 and iPhone 12 Pro

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Post by toxik »

FoomFries wrote: post #616
cmckn wrote: post #581

Let’s talk about the return of MagSafe! It seems...kinda dumb. Instead of plugging in a lightning cable, I can now stick a hockey puck to the back of my phone? The “safe” in MagSafe came from its “yankability” without sending your device flying. But if my phone is laying on top of a hockey puck...it’s gonna go flying if I trip on the cable. Why couldn’t we fill in the lightning port and use flush surface contacts, li…

Magnetic force falls off pretty quickly - a phone case can cause enough of a difference to make that force lackluster. Apparently, it seems, enough to put magnets in the case itself to better maintain that force. Additionally, it looks like the goal is to let your phone be held vertically, while attached only to the magnet. This makes sense for car mounts, where you may want to mount your GPS via magnet and charge it…

How fast you ask?

Why it’s an inverse square law! Like gravity. 1/r^2.

Re: iPhone 12 and iPhone 12 Pro

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Post by nojito »

millzlane wrote: post #708
cmckn wrote: post #581

Let’s talk about the return of MagSafe! It seems...kinda dumb. Instead of plugging in a lightning cable, I can now stick a hockey puck to the back of my phone? The “safe” in MagSafe came from its “yankability” without sending your device flying. But if my phone is laying on top of a hockey puck...it’s gonna go flying if I trip on the cable. Why couldn’t we fill in the lightning port and use flush surface contacts, li…

Eventually you will see the lighting port disappear with no way to back up the device locally. 5k cameras in cellphones with no removable storage and no way to locally backup.

What? i've been doing wireless local backups for years

Re: iPhone 12 and iPhone 12 Pro

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Post by freehunter »

Damogran6 wrote: post #543
bnj wrote: post #397

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The magsafe is really cool but for anyone interested in the wallet accessory just be careful with putting NFC chipped cards there. Paying with Apple Pay from your phone could get confusing.

I tried a few months back to pair down as many cards as I could and just couldn't get under 7 (medical, CC, ID, Fleet Diesel Card, Insurance, etc.) I don't know how people get it down to 3-4...

I guess it depends on what you need to carry with you. For example, I only carry my medical insurance card if I’m going to the doctor. It’s not an every day carry. Likewise, I only carry my HSA card when I am going to buy something that can be covered by the HSA (not that often). I have a work-issued credit card but I only carry it when I’m on a work trip (and even then I generally leave it in my wallet inside my luggage unless I know I will need it that day).

On 99% of days over the past two years, I’ve left my wallet at home and only carried my phone with only with two cards: my personal credit card and my drivers license.

Re: iPhone 12 and iPhone 12 Pro

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Post by freehunter »

throw51319 wrote: post #491
cgh wrote: post #418

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I just bought an SE about a month ago too. Damn.

Same. They are kings of curating their marketing timeline to extract every single dollar out of you.

How so? They release new phones every autumn, with few exceptions. So if you buy an iPhone in the autumn and it’s not the brand new just-announced model, you should expect that you’re going to have a previous-generation phone very quickly.

Apple’s marketing timeline is remarkably consistent with very few exceptions.

Re: iPhone 12 and iPhone 12 Pro

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Post by jack2222 »

abhiminator wrote: post #310

>Across the iPhone family, we’re removing the power adapter and EarPods that often go unused, but including the fast-charging USB‑C to Lightning cable that most people need. That shrinks packaging, and more boxes per shipment means fewer shipments overall. We’re also transitioning our manufacturing partners to renewable energy. Altogether, this eliminates over 2 million metric tons of carbon emissions annually. Looks…

If it wasn't about the money and just about the environment Apple would let you walk in to one of their stores with your serial number in hand and pick one up for free if you needed one (one per person)...

Re: iPhone 12 and iPhone 12 Pro

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Post by jack2222 »

amrrs wrote: post #35

Is this the first iPhone launch without Phil Schiller (in a while)? Looks like individual experts have taken over each segment of iPhone (from Phil Schiller). Still I miss him!

Very involved behind the scenes. I'm sure he set the direction for a lot of this presentation.

Re: iPhone 12 and iPhone 12 Pro

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Post by bredren »

joshgachnang wrote: post #658
bredren wrote: post #644

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I also thought the usability of the charger was odd. It seems you would pick the phone up and if you didn’t grab and put down the charging disk, it would go clunk and hit the ground. Sort of like the watch charger will do if it isn’t in a holder. Except louder and more expensive to replace. This was actually shown in the “snap” video they showed where a phone was pulled away. I couldn’t understand, are we expected to…

Personally, I'm waiting for it to release before jumping to conclusions. It's possible it's weighted so this isn't an issue, or the magnet is just strong enough to hold it in place but make it easy to pick up. Apple's usually pretty decent about providing a nice UX for these kinds of things. But I do agree the watch charger is a weird thing that pretty much requires a stand to feel complete.

I have a few of the spigen stands. They are basically required. Idk how Apple doesn’t have something that simple for the watch.

I agree Apple usually figures this out but I think that product was demonstrated, one that folds.

I could see this being the one that hangs over the arm of the couch. But still it needs a little landing pad thing.

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Post by torben-friis »

blantonl wrote: post #639
cmckn wrote: post #581

Let’s talk about the return of MagSafe! It seems...kinda dumb. Instead of plugging in a lightning cable, I can now stick a hockey puck to the back of my phone? The “safe” in MagSafe came from its “yankability” without sending your device flying. But if my phone is laying on top of a hockey puck...it’s gonna go flying if I trip on the cable. Why couldn’t we fill in the lightning port and use flush surface contacts, li…

I think the concept of the wallet that can quickly snap on and off of the phone is pretty neat. I currently use a case that has a wallet functionality (for my driver's license and credit cards) and that doesn't allow me to use wireless charging without completely taking the case off.

I see some issues there:

- Is keeping a magnet near my credit /public transport cards safe? Can't they be damaged by magnets?

- all of those cards are contactless in my country. Will I have to take them out to use apple pay, to avoid approaching a bung of nfc cards ?

Re: iPhone 12 and iPhone 12 Pro

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Post by bredren »

cmckn wrote: post #657
bredren wrote: post #644

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I also thought the usability of the charger was odd. It seems you would pick the phone up and if you didn’t grab and put down the charging disk, it would go clunk and hit the ground. Sort of like the watch charger will do if it isn’t in a holder. Except louder and more expensive to replace. This was actually shown in the “snap” video they showed where a phone was pulled away. I couldn’t understand, are we expected to…

Totally! Apple is amazing at getting the tolerances on magnets, hinges, etc just right, but I don’t see how you could get by without a suction cup or something on the bottom of the hockey puck. A downside to wireless chargers has always been alignment. I always do a double take to make sure my phone is actually charging. Having the magnets guide the phone onto the coils is an improvement, I guess.

Ya. The inconsistency of placement has dramatically reduced the value of the wireless so far. Presumably they have the data to see that people have struggled.

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Post by riantogo »

samatman wrote: post #709
riantogo wrote: post #565

I feel we need to talk about the charger. It is not included in the box. The reasoning is that we have our chargers from previous iPhones. But those white boxes all take USB-A. The included cable is USB-C. Never mind, I will just use the USB-C charger from other devices. But wait... the cable that comes in the box is USB-C male and those adapters from other devices don't take USB-C (either fixed cable, or USB-A, or n…

So there are only two possibilities here: you have a USB-C charger, or you don't. If you do, like I do, then you don't buy one. If you don't, then you buy one: Apple sells them, everyone else sells them. There's nothing to talk about: I've thrown my last two included chargers in a box, where they languish next to my Lightning-cable-equipped EarPods. I'm unlikely to get a new phone in this cycle, but if I did, the dif…

Then why include the cable? Apple sells them, everyone else sells them. You are missing the point here. A better solution is to put something like this in the box: https://smile.amazon.com/dp/B079LYHNSR/
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