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Re: Samsung TV owners complain about increasingly obtrusive ads

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Swenrekcah wrote: post #294
jiggawatts wrote: post #247

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I just got one today. It's so much better than the "Smart" Samsung TV it is plugged into that it's not even funny. The remote control has touch. I can use my phone to type text input. It's fast . It's elegant and slick. It has no ads. It has options that I care about. It doesn't waste my time with options I don't care about. The Samsung TV on the other hand was a flagship model. Top of the line. Best of the best. Jus…

There is one thing Apple TV has so backwards that I can't even. Text input. All the letters lined alphabetically with only left-right movement allowed. Takes ages to input anything. Also no corrections allowed. I actually exit appleTV and use the built in TV apps for when I need youtube and the like, because their input mechanism is not insane. I know there is a remote app for iPhones, but you do provide an actual re…

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Re: Samsung TV owners complain about increasingly obtrusive ads

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Post by reaperducer »

jhfdbkofdcho wrote: post #160
hnlmorg wrote: post #128

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> This is one of the reasons I paid the premium and went for a Sony instead. They haven't done anything stupid like this yet Oh they have. Many times over. Two instances affected me[1][2] and that was enough to swear me off all Sony products for the last 10 years. Only now am I contemplating buying from Sony again (a PS5). I don't think any multinational company is above trading their customers needs for a few extra…

I just bought a Sony and it’s running google android TV and it has suddenly got ads for “staff picks” now. “Free” movies on YouTube. https://streamingclarity.com/android-tv-staff-pick-highlight...

“staff picks”

I guess we're supposed to think "movie buffs who really know their stuff." When the reality is "[Sales] staff picks."

Re: Samsung TV owners complain about increasingly obtrusive ads

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Post by lykr0n »

Samsung is forever on my Shit list. They inject ads into their computers, tablets, smartphones, and TVs.

I'm happy with my LG TV, which the only "ads" they have are:

- Highlighting new "TV Channels" which is ... acceptable. I don't know why anyone would want/care about the Hyundai TV channel

- installing Disney+ automatically

Re: Samsung TV owners complain about increasingly obtrusive ads

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Post by victor9000 »

Phillips126 wrote: post #707

I purchased a Samsung TV about two years ago for $1,200. It was my first 4K TV and I loved it. I made the purchase around the same time I dropped my cable subscription, I just couldn't stand the advertisements anymore. The panel was thin (with almost no bezels), the picture quality was superb and I was sold on the "Smart TV" features like having built in access to Netflix, etc. For a while it was great, then I notice…

You could try using a pi-hole as your DNS server on your local network to block ads across all connected devices.

https://pi-hole.net/

Re: Samsung TV owners complain about increasingly obtrusive ads

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Post by zanderz »

Nextgrid wrote: post #211
avian wrote: post #122

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In some stupid meeting somewhere: A: ...and in conclusion, it's a win-win situation. Users will benefit from ads and our revenue will go up. B: People don't like ads on their TV. A: But they do. I refer you to slides 18 through 25 where you can see engagement metrics for our ad rollout on the old model. If people wouldn't like ads they wouldn't be clicking on them so much . B: I don't like ads. Do you like ads on you…

I suspect that a large part of this ad- and marketing-driven economy is based on this. The reason they predict their revenue will go up (which it will, at least in the short term until the market adjusts) is because they have a lot of customers already lined up to pay them to show ads on their TVs. Those customers' marketing departments decided to pay money to include their ads on TVs because a similar process was fo…

I worked on a very popular free desktop product (BitTorrent/uTorrent) when a major revenue stream was the bundling of crapware in the install path, depending on people clicking the dialogs without reading them. I remember an executive announcing in a meeting that "search engine replacement" (reconfiguring your browser and/or system to a shadier alternative that made us money) was viable because the telemetry data showed that not very many people uninstalled in the 2-3 weeks after this was done to them, so, yay! another revenue stream people don't seem to totally hate! But they had read the tea leaves wrong and the backlash eventually caught up with them. It shows that reading mountains of data (100 million+ active monthly users) and reaching solid conclusions about user sentiment is a black art and numbers can be presented to show whatever point of view you want.

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Post by mikestew »

tanjtanjtanj wrote: post #556
tzs wrote: post #266

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I'm curious how many people pay extra for no Kindle ads. I originally bought Kindles without ads, but for my third Kindle I decided to buy it with ads to see how bad they were. You can pay the extra later to get rid of ads, so if it turns out buying the version with ads was a mistake it is easy to fix it. I don't see the sleep screen except briefly between the time I open the cover and the time the Kindle wakes up. I…

After a couple months of nothing but ads for bodice-ripper romance novels with semi-clothed, entwined bodies on the cover (based on my consumption of biographies and Fantasy?), I went to Amazon support to pay for the ads to be removed and they did it for free and gave me a rather large credit for kindle books. I've done this with one other Kindle and several other people have done it based on my experience and they'v…

After a couple months of nothing but ads for bodice-ripper romance novels with semi-clothed, entwined bodies on the cover

There was a time that the Kindle ads were actually appropriate. I've even purchased the odd sci-fi book that showed up on the wake screen. But that's been a couple of years. Now I get the same bodice-rippers you're seeing. What a waste; Amazon has my book purchase history going back 20 years, and that is what you're showing me? Do your advertising customers know this? Because, shallow guy that I am, I read sci-fi, philosophy, and books on distance running. That's pretty much it. I did read part of a Danielle Steele book (imagine GPT-3 wrote a romance novel...) 35 years ago when I was married to a woman who read those, but I doubt Amazon knows that.

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Post by ghostpepper »

throwaway9870 wrote: post #698
TwoHeadedBeast wrote: post #585

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Think of it as unpatched computer on your network, possibly with a built in microphone and camera.

Why put it on a network?

Are there any open networks in range? How do you know it's not jumping on those?

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Post by avip »

zanderz wrote: post #725
Nextgrid wrote: post #211

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I suspect that a large part of this ad- and marketing-driven economy is based on this. The reason they predict their revenue will go up (which it will, at least in the short term until the market adjusts) is because they have a lot of customers already lined up to pay them to show ads on their TVs. Those customers' marketing departments decided to pay money to include their ads on TVs because a similar process was fo…

I worked on a very popular free desktop product (BitTorrent/uTorrent) when a major revenue stream was the bundling of crapware in the install path, depending on people clicking the dialogs without reading them. I remember an executive announcing in a meeting that "search engine replacement" (reconfiguring your browser and/or system to a shadier alternative that made us money) was viable because the telemetry data sho…

Either that, or the custom search was impossible to remove for non-technical crowd - AKA "the conduit business model"
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