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Re: Apple’s declining software quality

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Post by chris_wot » Tue, Feb 09, 2016, 11:44 AM UTC

hboon wrote: post #716

chris_wot wrote: post #643

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If you think that it was bad when they removed features from iPhoto, then I'd hate to think what you thought when they removed features from Numbers!

I (Apple) will one-up you with Final Cut Pro X http://arstechnica.com/apple/2012/01/more-fcpx-fallout-top-r...

Reminds me of a discussion that was on anothe HN article a few weeks back where someone proudly stated that if a feature customers used didn't fit for in with the companies strategic direction they'd drop it, and tough luck for the customer.

Apple seem to have the same mentality. They used'to get away with it, but mostly because they replaced it with something better. Now they just seem to drop features entirely. That's not a good way of going. As much as I despise Steve Jobs, he never let that quality of a product drop to the degree that big customers (or even smaller customers) left Apple without a major fight to keep them.

It's looking like Apple's obsession with making great and quality products is taking a bit of a backward seat. I think they probably need to worry a little less on their schedule, and more on polish and feature completeness.

Rather remarkable I'm actually saying this, to be honest! Apple would be the last people I would have guessed needed this advise...

Re: Apple’s declining software quality

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Post by dkonofalski » Fri, Feb 19, 2016, 12:17 AM UTC

hboon wrote: post #716

chris_wot wrote: post #643

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If you think that it was bad when they removed features from iPhoto, then I'd hate to think what you thought when they removed features from Numbers!

I (Apple) will one-up you with Final Cut Pro X http://arstechnica.com/apple/2012/01/more-fcpx-fallout-top-r...

I love the new FCP. As a long time user of FC7, I'm ok with losing out on some of these features as long as they added them back over time and they've done that, for the most part (at least for my uses). The old FCP really needed a facelift and was trapped in an such an old mindset when video was still mainly stored on tape drives and needed to work like real life video editing tools. FCP X is so fast for me and such a treat to use for 99% of things that I can deal with having to jump back to FCP 7 every once in a while. As long as Apple doesn't somehow prevent me from using FCP 7, I don't care and love the new direction of FCP X.

Re: Apple’s declining software quality

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Post by dkonofalski » Fri, Feb 19, 2016, 12:18 AM UTC

chris_wot wrote: post #643

dkonofalski wrote: post #540

Earlier quoted context omitted.

As a long-time Apple user and former employee, this is exactly how I feel about the current situation. I still think that my Mac/Apple devices are more solid than my Android/PC devices, but this is exactly what I'm noticing more regularly. I forgive most faults that happen because it's almost as if I can forgive them not working all the time since 99% of the time, everything is awesome. On Windows, that same forgiven…

If you think that it was bad when they removed features from iPhoto, then I'd hate to think what you thought when they removed features from Numbers!

Oh yes... That was a bad move, I think. Luckily, I rarely have to use Numbers so I didn't really care. It just annoyed me that they removed some of the features that I actually did use when I needed to use Numbers. If they added the features back as quickly as they did with other apps, I wouldn't care, but they didn't. :(