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Re: Google Reader shutting down

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Post by 1ManBandAccts »

patrickk wrote: post #608
boyter wrote: post #464

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Yes I certainly do. I have been working on it, but Koders and Ohloh are pretty established so its a long climb. I think the .de domain might be hurting a little bit too. Happy to listen to any actionable items that can address this though.

Check out the periodic table of SEO: http://searchengineland.com/seotable Kalzmeus on SEO (click around his blog for more, guy's a genius): http://www.kalzumeus.com/2010/01/24/startup-seo/ Also some quick, simple advice: 1. Blog 2/3 times per week minimum. Target a single, relevant keyword per blog post (relevant to your domain). The post title, H1s, H2s etc, image tags should all contain your primary keyword. Blog p…

@patrickk I've been looking for a basics post about SEo without tech speak for ahem years. That doc is brilliant. Thank you! I might be able to start implementing now instead of having SEO on my to-do list yet again.

Re: Google Reader shutting down

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Post by nebkor »

shenedu wrote: post #436
conesus wrote: post #13

This has been a long time coming. Four years ago I began work on my own feed reader, NewsBlur, and it's now a full-fledged Google Reader competitor. It's also a paid app and has been paying for itself nearly since the beginning. http://www.newsblur.com I hope HN finds NewsBlur useful, especially since it's got native mobile apps on iOS (iPhone+iPad), Android, Windows Phone, and Nokia MeeGo. Native story sharing was l…

NewsBlur is pretty good. I've used it for a while. I also write my own feed reader: Rssminer. It's not as full-fledged as NewsBlur, but is a much lighter alternative. It's support login with google and import google reader's subscription list. http://rssminer.net/demo I hope HN finds it useful too. It's also fully open-source too: https://github.com/shenfeng

It's fast and lightweight and uncluttered, which is great, but it lacks at least one bit of extremely critical functionality:

I need, 100%, to see my content in forward-chronological order (most-recent-last).

I've already given $24 for a year of NewsBlur, and I am super excited about being able to share and comment again. But, I know I'm not alone in wanting correct sorting.

Re: Google Reader shutting down

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Post by nebkor »

xlevus wrote: post #574
Heliosmaster wrote: post #560

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When he realized that the traffic would be too much, and money would probably pour: https://twitter.com/NewsBlur/status/312025565815255040

It's a move that makes sense sure. But it irks me that a service I've been using for however long just one day decides to cut my quota by 80%. It doesn't exactly spur me to start paying.

Maybe you should just realize that you should pay for the shit you use. Or if you don't value your own time, grab the source and run it yourself (and pay at least $1/month for hosting it, but probably really $10-$20/month for hosting it yourself).

Re: Google Reader shutting down

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Post by 1ManBandAccts »

bshanks wrote: post #696
Udo wrote: post #245

People have said repeatedly that RSS is dead, and that's apparently true, but I've been wondering for a few years now what has replaced it? It's not like social networks provide the same kind of service, really. So is getting updates from people and projects you care about really such a niche thing? Have I missed some other huge channel that supersedes RSS? Or are we about to actually lose something profound here? Ku…

> So is getting updates from people and projects you care about really such a niche thing? My guess is that it is. Anecdotally, I would guess that only my programmer or tech industry friends and me seriously care about getting updates from projects, or from people they don't know socially IRL. I would guess that my non-programmer friends want social updates from people, which social networks do provide, and they are…

From the people I know who aren't in the tech industry who used reader intensively: a writer (for research), community website business owner (for providing content and keeping up), marketing business owner (for keeping track of industry developments).

I used it throughout the day and run all my CPD and almost all my non social media based marketing through it.

Currently looking at Feedly and I have 6 posts in my Saved in 1 screen shot instead of 17 with Reader. Working my way through the alternatives and on hour 8 so far. Grrrr.

It isn't niche in the same way as GMail isn't, or Apps.

Re: Google Reader shutting down

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Post by getdavidhiggins »

philwebster wrote: post #389
dfgonzalez wrote: post #318

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Bought it a few years ago... and I wouldn't recommend it. It was created in a pre-iPad/iPhone era and it's not comfortable to use from anywhere else than a PC.

I haven't used Fever personally, but I do know the popular Reeder RSS client for Mac and iOS has Fever support.

(Currently) only the iPhone version of Reeder supports Fever. The iPad version does not. In version 2.0 the dev team might add support for Fever.

Re: Google Reader shutting down

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Post by patrickk »

1ManBandAccts wrote: post #711
patrickk wrote: post #608

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Check out the periodic table of SEO: http://searchengineland.com/seotable Kalzmeus on SEO (click around his blog for more, guy's a genius): http://www.kalzumeus.com/2010/01/24/startup-seo/ Also some quick, simple advice: 1. Blog 2/3 times per week minimum. Target a single, relevant keyword per blog post (relevant to your domain). The post title, H1s, H2s etc, image tags should all contain your primary keyword. Blog p…

@patrickk I've been looking for a basics post about SEo without tech speak for ahem years. That doc is brilliant. Thank you! I might be able to start implementing now instead of having SEO on my to-do list yet again.

Glad you found it helpful!

Re: Google Reader shutting down

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Post by tempestn »

takluyver wrote: post #610
Udo wrote: post #245

People have said repeatedly that RSS is dead, and that's apparently true, but I've been wondering for a few years now what has replaced it? It's not like social networks provide the same kind of service, really. So is getting updates from people and projects you care about really such a niche thing? Have I missed some other huge channel that supersedes RSS? Or are we about to actually lose something profound here? Ku…

As someone who used to use RSS feeds and doesn't any more, I've replaced it with a mixture of: checking websites for stuff that updates frequently like news, e-mail subscriptions for infrequent but important updates, and twitter (or similar) subscriptions for stuff that I can afford to miss. Why not RSS? Formatting was often not quite right - if I wanted to read something, I often ended up clicking through to the ori…

For the first issue, you might check out newsblur. Basically solves the clicking through to the original issue perfectly.

The second I completely agree with you on. Even these cool readers that prioritize stuff you're most likely to read, by necessity, keep track of what's read and unread, and I get exactly that same itch that I need to stay on top of everything. It's completely artificial and almost ridiculous, but there it is. And I can't imagine how a reader could solve that problem without creating the even worse worry of missing things. (Which ironically evaporates when you don't use a reader and therefore no longer expect not to miss anything.)

Perhaps there is a novel solution there though, waiting to be discovered.

Re: Google Reader shutting down

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Post by 1ManBandAccts »

skymt wrote: post #171
surrealize wrote: post #142

I use Reader's "star" functionality to keep track of stuff that I want to refer back to later. And, AFAICT, you can't easily export your star history. You can export your subscriptions, but not the stars. The only approach that I've seen to exporting stars is to use the fact that Reader will create a feed of just your starred items. Then you can view that feed in some other reader and manually mark each one there (ug…

Stars are, in fact, exportable. The "Google Takeout" zip archive for Reader includes a file called starred.json, containing a list of your starred items in a JSON format that, as far as I know, nothing else reads. If whatever reader you switch to can import marked items, you can probably work up a script to convert Google's format to whatever the new reader uses.

Feedly will sync over all your starred items and put them into Saved.

Re: Google Reader shutting down

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Post by autotravis »

binderbizingdos wrote: post #682

- apt-get install rss2email - add some feeds - be done with it

I tried this a while back and totally forgot about it. Thanks for the reminder!

To run it, use the r2e command and you can follow the guide here:http://www.allthingsrss.com/rss2email/getting-started-with-r...

I think I will try this and set up some filters to move the feed emails out of my inbox for later viewing.

Re: Google Reader shutting down

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Post by takluyver »

tempestn wrote: post #717
takluyver wrote: post #610

Earlier quoted context omitted.

As someone who used to use RSS feeds and doesn't any more, I've replaced it with a mixture of: checking websites for stuff that updates frequently like news, e-mail subscriptions for infrequent but important updates, and twitter (or similar) subscriptions for stuff that I can afford to miss. Why not RSS? Formatting was often not quite right - if I wanted to read something, I often ended up clicking through to the ori…

For the first issue, you might check out newsblur. Basically solves the clicking through to the original issue perfectly. The second I completely agree with you on. Even these cool readers that prioritize stuff you're most likely to read, by necessity, keep track of what's read and unread, and I get exactly that same itch that I need to stay on top of everything. It's completely artificial and almost ridiculous, but…

I think in many ways the solution was already discovered: don't create the expectation that the user will read everything. When they log on, show them the most recent or most significant events, and provide a way to find older events if they want. Twitter, Facebook, plenty of news sites, aggregators like HN & reddit, all hit on more or less this.

Technically, there's no reason it couldn't be done with RSS feeds. But the language of 'subscribing' encouraged thinking about RSS feeds in a different way.

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