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Codeberg Bans Cryptocurrency Projects

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Re: Codeberg Bans Cryptocurrency Projects

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Post by shikck200 »

iamnothere wrote: post #528
shikck200 wrote: post #319

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Why would P2P/E2EE software be banned? Makes no sense to even compare that to crypto. Its like saying we ban C because the bitcoin is written in it. > Software that gets used to leak state secrets? Thats not really a "thing". If someone uploads something of the sorts, it probably going to be taken down. VPNs follow the same rules as P2P/E2EE, and has nothing to do with crypto. Just look at github, they have taken dow…

> Why would P2P/E2EE software be banned? Chat Control 2.0? Public pressure campaigns against encryption? The mob decides that it’s “fascist” to prevent snooping? > Thats not really a "thing". WikiLeaks and SecureDrop would disagree. > Just look at github, they have taken down multiple repos during the years that are illegal, and/or breaks their TOS. Yes, and I’m saying that this is a bad thing. Obviously there may be…

> WikiLeaks and SecureDrop would disagree.

This is just nonsense. You can also then argue we should ban email. I can get an anon throwaway email and send some leaked document that way to, say a reporter.

> Chat Control 2.0

Has nothing to with with cryptography. Banning that would mean we have no ssl, and no online payments / banking.

Re: Codeberg Bans Cryptocurrency Projects

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Post by shikck200 »

Cider9986 wrote: post #594
shikck200 wrote: post #313

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I hear this over and over. What kind of privacy are we taking about here? You mean X gives Y 100 bucks in cash privacy? Or purchasing a house where there is no paper trail, no knowledge of who is the previous/current owner and no insurance at all kind of privacy? Would you be happy to send your kids to a school that no one knows whos the owner, who operates it and if there is any kind of hazards and/or insurance/main…

>You mean X gives Y 100 bucks in cash privacy? Yes. Monero is the equivalent of spending cash online. Any service that accepts monero still has order numbers to deliver the product. Or requires an address if it must be shipped. It's about minimizing unnecessary data.

Thats pretty limited. How do i buy a car with monero? A house? How about can i pay for medical treatment with monero?

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Post by [deleted] »

inigyou wrote: post #617
KptMarchewa wrote: post #511

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Yet they bend under fascist requests like current US administration.

Codeberg? Did they? I know large corporations do it because they fear commercial retaliation, but Codeberg is a registered German charity by German citizens living in Germany and has absolutely no reason to give a flying fuck what the US president thinks. Which is incredibly based.

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Post by makapuf »

0x3f wrote: post #432
throwa356262 wrote: post #401

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When I go to a vegetarian restaurant I don't demand they serve me a juicy meat burger. We have different places with different philosophies. It is okay to be different, otherwise everything would look boringly identical. Sincerely, A meat lover and a codeberg fan.

It's a bit of an inappropriate comparison though, since restaurants are ubiquitous and reasonable GitHub alternatives are vanishingly rare. People are quite rightly more troubled when providers in a low-cardinality space become unviable.

They may be troubled but Codeberg owes them precisely nothing

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Post by exo762 »

Ferret7446 wrote: post #704
dlubarov wrote: post #620

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There isn't really a technical difference that made PoS viable for Ethereum but not Bitcoin; it's a hard fork in either case. The differences are more cultural - - For better or worse, Ethereum has more centralized leadership (mainly the EF) which helps coordinate upgrades. Hard forks happen pretty regularly, and don't typically risk fracturing the community, unless the changes are particularly controversial (see Eth…

The centralization and PoS makes Ethereum unsafe. What's the point of moving from a currency that a government can unilaterally control to a currency that the Ethereum board/stakers can unilaterally control? The point of PoW is that it resists monopolization unlike PoS.

PoW is trivial to control in its' today form. When the network hash power is dominated by three players, you know every address you need to pay a visit.

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Post by Cider9986 »

shikck200 wrote: post #712
Cider9986 wrote: post #594

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>You mean X gives Y 100 bucks in cash privacy? Yes. Monero is the equivalent of spending cash online. Any service that accepts monero still has order numbers to deliver the product. Or requires an address if it must be shipped. It's about minimizing unnecessary data.

Thats pretty limited. How do i buy a car with monero? A house? How about can i pay for medical treatment with monero?

You can do them with Cash, it can be done with Monero. You make records.

Obviously very rare for these to have Monero payment method.

Re: Codeberg Bans Cryptocurrency Projects

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Post by mw888 »

Y-bar wrote: post #426
mw888 wrote: post #410

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Just because most of everything has a political angle/facet does not mean it defines my life as much as it seem to do to you. It just serves to help me articulate my choices in life. I would like to know how taking an active moral stand as Codeberg is doing is lazy. Especially when put in relation to armchair analysis on social media.

Your post I responded you had said "I have come to understand it is that everything is indeed political."

Now you concede a bit:

> Just because most of everything has a political angle/facet does not mean it defines my life as much as it seem to do to you.

You are morally lazy if you think magnifying the political aspect of any relationship is sensible. You've defined no limit to it, which has obvious outcomes. An intuitive limit is insufficient.

You've also got confused and accused me of 'making things political' when my comment is very clearly recommending the opposite - a sort of childish "no you."

Re: Codeberg Bans Cryptocurrency Projects

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Post by dbmikus »

overfeed wrote: post #228
dbmikus wrote: post #61

Well, definitely makes me inclined to never use Codeberg for source hosting if they can just get together and decide to ban an entire category of source repo. It makes Codeberg seem like an unserious project.

Were you paying for the service?

Nope, but I thought about moving hosting (or to Forgejo) because of (a) GitHub's issues, and (b) I like the idea of using an OSS code forge

I suppose since Codeberg is a totally free non-profit for OSS projects, it makes it more reasonable for them to ban code for idealogical differences (as opposed to legal).

But if it were a paid service, this would not inspire confidence that it's a place to host my company's code.

Re: Codeberg Bans Cryptocurrency Projects

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Post by kamikazechaser »

Borgz wrote: post #338
kamikazechaser wrote: post #285

I was one of the commenters that was staunchly against this proposal on the original issue that was brought up 3 years ago. Imo their entire argument has always been straw man. Anyone who has spent enough time around the core Codeberg community knows how ideologically motivated their decisions are regardless of what they put out in their PR statements. This incident coupled with the Forgejo one (In which they twisted…

Can you provide any links regarding the Forgejo incident? I haven't heard about that.

This is the PR that started it all: https://github.com/go-gitea/gitea/pull/27455
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