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The US is winning the AI race where it matters most: commercialization

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phs318u wrote: post #520
hattmall wrote: post #511

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Yes, The fear with the war on drugs was that a large majority of the population would become addicted to hard drugs. The fear was the the US population would become like China in the 1800s and the communist aligned countries where drugs were produced would have massive trade and power imbalances over the US population. China had as much as 25% of the population addicted to British opium in the 1800s. The US war on dr…

If you look at figure 1 on this CDC page (which looks at deaths rather than overall usage), I’d suggest the numbers are trending the exact opposite to what “winning” the war on drugs would look like. https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/products/databriefs/db474.htm

I think you are still vastly misunderstanding what the war on drugs concerns. This level of overdose deaths is a problem, but not really what the struggle is really about.

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Post by deterministic »

yamillove wrote: post #550
khriss wrote: post #522

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> its no accident that the U.S. is the number one economy Sure, it's the largest by GDP, but how much of that GDP is filtering down to the regular people? Are Americans, on average happier and have better life outcomes than other developed nations?

So much that millions of people risk their lives or leave their families to come to this country. By this objective metric, it's literally the best country in the world's history. Is there another country that comes close?

Millions of people risk their lives to move to Europe and Australia.

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Post by tmp10423288442 »

MarsIronPI wrote: post #293
elteto wrote: post #226

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Local models will never compete with large SOTA models, in the same way an iPhone doesn't compete with supercomputers doing nuclear simulations. They paths will differentiate and split. Probably SOTA models will eventually be locked down and only accessible to state actors because of how expensive they will be to run (already started with Mythos).

Isn't Mythos mostly hype though?

In the sense that its capabilities were a little overhyped as a quantum leap / unique security threat, and it's so expensive that it's impossible for Anthropic at scale. That hype looked a bit silly when GPT-5.5 matched or even exceeded its capabilities while actually being a model ordinary people could access. But its level of capabilities is only currently matched by OpenAI at this time - the other AI providers, even Google (at least publicly) are quite a bit behind.

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Post by ForHackernews »

ericmay wrote: post #704
ForHackernews wrote: post #688

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Fine, if you don't like the iPhone analogy then look at Coca-Cola vs store brand Super Cola. They are both brown sugar water, but Coke is Coke. People buy Coke because of the brand, the image and (maybe a little bit) because of the taste. There is no equivalent in LLM land. AI models are not like Coke vs Other Cola. AI is like electricity or water, a generic commodity with minimal cost or friction to switching. I can…

> They are both brown sugar water, > AI is like electricity or water, a generic commodity with minimal cost or friction to switching. I can flip the VSCode plugin between a dozen different models a day. I don't think that's the case, and as companies continue to build out AI products we will move more into opinionated workflows and different vendor design patterns precisely because the model you suggest will result i…

> precisely because the model you suggest will result in a race to the bottom which is the opposite of the intended business model.

Yes, exactly. That's how capitalism works. No business plan survives contact with the market.

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