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Ghostty is leaving GitHub

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Re: Ghostty is leaving GitHub

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Post by antonvs »

idan wrote: post #288
Lammy wrote: post #274

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> In the past few years, GitHub has absorbed both a fundamental paradigm shift (agentic coding) AND several different hockey sticks of growth. It's messy. I'm not always proud of the results or the product choices we are forced into. Excellent example of why centralization is a bad thing. A Git “hub” is not a thing that should have ever existed for a self-described “distributed” version control system.

Shrug Nothing prevents usage of GH in a decentralized fashion. There's nothing magical about git remotes. Just add some more, figure out a process that works for you, have fun! In reality: when I want to send a letter I don't want to figure out a process from scratch. I want to go to the local post office, buy a stamp, and post a letter. Convenience is a spectrum and different people land in different spots. What irk…

> Nothing prevents usage of GH in a decentralized fashion.

Do you mean Git, not Github? Because Github is centralized by definition, “using it in a decentralized fashion” doesn’t make sense.

Re: Ghostty is leaving GitHub

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Post by __alexs »

GitHub has been stagnant for so many years now. There was an extremely brief period where it was actually good and innovative at the same time.

They've started shipping stuff again, but it's mostly not stuff I want.

Re: Ghostty is leaving GitHub

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Post by egorfine »

atonse wrote: post #22

During one of the x threads where Mitchell was (legitimately) complaining about Github, there were a couple replies suggesting that GitHub should hire him to be their CEO. And I remember seeing that and thinking "huh... not at all a bad idea." There is a specific kind of leader that can turn such ships around, and they are strong in their convictions, and aren't just "managers", but visionaries coupled with strong ex…

> GitHub should hire him to be their CEO

And then impose the same requirements that killed GitHub in the first place.

Re: Ghostty is leaving GitHub

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Post by Rapzid »

deaux wrote: post #554
Rapzid wrote: post #541

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Teams has introduced substantial improvements over the past couple years..

Ah yes, after a decade of being one of the worst pieces of software with 10M+ MAU, literally only gaining market share because of monopolistic bundling practices. So bad that if a startup had made Microsoft Teams they would've gone out of business after a year. But the substantial improvements!!!

Ah yes, ... Yes?

Re: Ghostty is leaving GitHub

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Post by tomaytotomato »

__turbobrew__ wrote: post #615
shimman wrote: post #301

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Honestly the arrogance of their workers are truly astounding. It also tracks that someone with little software experience would become GitHub's staff research engineer. Truly a massive signal that we can't let these companies lead the direction of tech in our country.

> I sit at the intersection of design, anthropology, and web development How do these people still have jobs post ZIRP?

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Re: Ghostty is leaving GitHub

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Post by sevenseacat »

chapz wrote: post #679
jasonkester wrote: post #676

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I hope this doesn’t come across as making fun, but it had never occurred to me that GitHub could be anything more than a tool for hosting my source code. So if you had written this same piece about all the good times you’d had in Windows Explorer, I’d be no less confused. Can I ask what was there that made you visit the site for anything other than reviewing pull requests and issues?

It's probably not GitHub as such, but the associated memories and experiences. You never miss a place, you miss the feeling of happines you had when you were there, or the people you spent time with there. People get emotional over a car, over a house, over a pet... you could argue for everything it's just a car/house/pet... you can get a new one.

Putting pets in that same category is harsh. Pets are family members, living things that you share a home and good times and experiences with.

Re: Ghostty is leaving GitHub

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Post by Rapzid »

Capricorn2481 wrote: post #588
Rapzid wrote: post #514

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Nope. I think all this is mostly virtue signaling and a bit of "GitHub derangement syndrome" in the water. People are ANGRY about the AI boom impact right now and "microslop" is trending harder than "M$" back in the day. MH had a weird ass set of Tweets a month or so ago talking about GitHub needing disruption and how the UI was bad. Now it's "Not fun anymore". I guess you die a hero or live long enough to be irrelev…

> People are ANGRY about the AI boom impact right now and "microslop" is trending harder than "M$" back in the day. The writer of this blog post is Mitchell Hashimoto, and he has posted positively about AI, so that doesn't track at all. The reason people are talking about it is because the decline is rapid. That's worse than the raw downtime. There's a sense that it will be even worse in a year. I'm not a fan of AI e…

It's contagious negativity.

Re: Ghostty is leaving GitHub

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Post by zacmps »

znpy wrote: post #287
atonse wrote: post #22

During one of the x threads where Mitchell was (legitimately) complaining about Github, there were a couple replies suggesting that GitHub should hire him to be their CEO. And I remember seeing that and thinking "huh... not at all a bad idea." There is a specific kind of leader that can turn such ships around, and they are strong in their convictions, and aren't just "managers", but visionaries coupled with strong ex…

Gitlab is pretty cool to be honest, and it’s generally underrated.

I agree, but it does have faults. Performance is woeful, and managing an on-prem instance is (literally) a full time job.
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