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Post by jlledo »

armadyl wrote: post #360
samtheprogram wrote: post #299

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What part of the feature set in particular has been lacking in competitors? EDIT: asking because I've been working on an alternative of sorts. I used GV a lot before I figured I could go without it/Google.

I'm not sure what the OP does, but at least for me I find myself chained to Google Voice for SMS 2FA use because it's basically the only phone number provider that cannot be exploited with a sim swap attack (same deal with Google Fi). And while I don't necessarily trust Google, their account security is leagues ahead of anyone else imo. I previously looked at jmp.chat but they didn't really inspire confidence on the…

Not affiliated and never used them, but Cape (https://www.cape.co/) says they protect against SIM swaps with private keys.

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Post by pyrale »

ButlerianJihad wrote: post #639
pyrale wrote: post #637

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Political events are usually part of student university life in western-tradition universities. From my personal experience, it was hard to completely avoid them if you had any involvement in the student extracurricular life.

I disagree. I cultivated a preference for the basement terminal labs while I was attending UCSD. While I was definitely in touch with the communist/socialist underbelly of dissenters there, I never found myself wrapped up in rallies or protests or any sort of political activism. In fact, my mother had strongly discouraged me from attending UC Berkeley, because of the politicized environment there, the protests, the d…

> From my personal experience, it was hard to completely avoid them

> I was definitely in touch with the communist/socialist underbelly of dissenters there [...] I read the on-campus commie newsletter that was distributed free.

Basically, this doesn't sound like disagreement to me. You did come across political activism, and you have some minor exposition. Granted our experience may be different, since we attended different universities at different times ; and so the magnitude of political activism was likely different. But academic freedom is a core tenet of western universities, and that means political life has always been part of campus life.

You seem to draw the limit at "attending protests", but this is an arbitrary limit. If, instead of profiling who attended the protests, the inquiry had been a network graph analysis of the commie underground, you may well have been listed.

Political rights are protected in the US. They don't have an arbitrary threshold such as "it's fine to read the commie newspaper but it's not fine to protest a topic". You draw an arbitrary limit which sets you on the good side, but what happens in reality is that this article questions whether it's fine for some government entity to draw that arbitrary line as they see fit. That's not exactly the same thing.

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Post by caminante »

herewulf wrote: post #680
caminante wrote: post #379

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It's also futile because you generate a signature that can be traced across aliases, sites, etc.

True, but it also assumes HN is engaging in this practice which is not a given because it's a rather unusual site.

If your point is that obscure topics are raised, couldn't that make you more identifiable if you have digital footprints on the same topic elsewhere?

HN also disallows post deletion past a certain period.

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Post by unselect5917 »

aleph_minus_one wrote: post #705
nullsanity wrote: post #589

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Yes? Why would a government allow people who aren't citizens to come in and protest on its soil about its actions? I think that's the definition of forgein interference.

> Yes? Why would a government allow people who aren't citizens to come in and protest on its soil about its actions? Because the definition of what a "protest" is is very arbitrary and can be defined to suit your political agenda.

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Post by unselect5917 »

nothrabannosir wrote: post #681
Gareth321 wrote: post #663

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> Does this administration care to much about the law? As a European my opinion of Trump could not be any lower, but it is my understanding that they have complied with all court orders to date (with some being contested all the way to the Supreme Court). They are certainly testing the authority limits of various courts and congressional processes, but they have complied with all legal processes to date.

Notable exception: the TikTok ban.

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Post by andruby »

Gareth321 wrote: post #663
thuridas wrote: post #625

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Does this administration care to much about the law? A judge can rule something but they mostly keep doing the same thing. Not to mention the supreme court that is willing to let this happen.

> Does this administration care to much about the law? As a European my opinion of Trump could not be any lower, but it is my understanding that they have complied with all court orders to date (with some being contested all the way to the Supreme Court). They are certainly testing the authority limits of various courts and congressional processes, but they have complied with all legal processes to date.

I am not a lawyer, but I think the Trump administration is not complying with:

0. "DOJ acknowledges violating dozens of recent court orders in New Jersey" [0]

1. In Minnesota, judges reported 94 court-order violations in January and, separately, one judge identified 210 orders in 143 cases where ICE had not complied. [1]

[0] https://www.politico.com/news/2026/02/18/trump-ice-immigrati...

[1] https://www.nytimes.com/2026/02/23/us/politics/judges-contem...

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Post by elAhmo »

ap99 wrote: post #664
keithnz wrote: post #443

weird everyone's focusing on privacy and google.... Not the actual insanity of a government targeting people who are legally allowed to be in the US. You can try to find a way to keep things private, and many of the people on HN likely have the capability to do so. But hiding from your government because they are weaponizing your information against you seems to be the wrong approach. I just don't understand the Amer…

How is this insane? The US isn't some global free zone where everyone has a right to come and go - do as they please. If you came to the US legally with a visa. Great. When you signed your visa documents there were some questions they asked you and some fine print that basically made you liable for "bad behavior." I'm an American living in the UK and I'm under no illusion that if I start doing dumb stuff here it's po…

Protesting against ethnic cleansing is a bad thing, that’s what you’re saying?

No matter what kind of mental gymnastics you try to do, this is just an obvious case of a foreign government having a huge influence and control over internal US affairs.

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Post by mortarion »

logifail wrote: post #588
Jimmc414 wrote: post #499

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Yes, someone in customs at an airport can be treated as functionally “at the border” with reduced protections. But you are conflating seeking entry with being present inside the country. That’s the legal line, and the Supreme Court has stated it clearly. “once an alien enters the country, the legal circumstance changes, for the Due Process Clause applies to all ‘persons’ within the United States, including aliens, wh…

> Yes, someone in customs at an airport can be treated as functionally “at the border” with reduced protections. But you are conflating seeking entry with being present inside the country. That’s the legal line, and the Supreme Court has stated it clearly. At least in terms of being "at the border", United States v. Martinez-Fuerte would appear to disagree. That legal line you mention is both figuratively and literal…

Most people in the USA live within 100 miles of the border. That 100 miles limit was chosen for a purpose, to weaken protections for most US citizens.

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Post by elAhmo »

xdennis wrote: post #416
dwaltrip wrote: post #264

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Not simply because it had defense contractors… You made an editorial choice to leave out the part about selling weapons to Israel to use against Gaza. Once can agree or disagree with the action to disrupt the career. Either way, I find your omission a bit glaring.

It was omitted because it is irrelevant. It doesn't matter which ally the US sells weapons to. If the Gazans attacked Luxembourg, Luxembourgers have the right to defend themselves (and win) too.

I’m sure you’re also applying the same logic to Iran and saying they have a right to defend themselves?

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Post by tehjoker »

Glemllksdf wrote: post #701
MichaelRo wrote: post #619

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I have the feeling that this is simplifying something. I do agree that if someone would come to my country on a visa for studing, I don't think its okay for them to protest stuff. It feels disrespectful even if i'm aligned with that persons politics. On the other hand, i expect us all to have a acertain amount of personal freedom on our planet and protesting itself is part of this, same as free speech. In this contex…

gifted by europeans? i think you may be overlooking the native americans. this is a settler colonial country
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