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Re: LinkedIn is searching your browser extensions

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if they do a better job at showing me an ad that might be relevant to me, how is that disgusting? if I have to see an ad at all I at least want them to give it their best shot

Imagine if someone was following you around with a clipboard writing down everything you do, then rifling through your bookshelf to make note of certain books on the bookshelf, and then using that to target ads at you. You'd say that's a ridiculous and illegal thing to do without you explicit consent, right? Maybe you personally don't mind and would be happy to offer that consent. But they're doing it without your co…

by that analogy this is not following me around in my house, it’s when I go into their house that they log it?

Re: LinkedIn is searching your browser extensions

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coveryoutracks always tells me I'm unique Which is concerning. Until you realise I do the same thing a few days later and I'm still unique.

It tells you that you have a unique fingerprint. It is not telling you that the test site has never seen you before, because the eff isn't storing your fingerprint for later analysis and tracking It could actually tell you about which real tracking vendors are showing you as "Seen and tracked" so it's pretty annoying they don't do that. If that site shows you as having a unique fingerprint, I guarantee you are being…

> the EFF isn't storing your fingerprint for later analysis and tracking

Yes they are, quoting that very page:

> Your browser fingerprint appears to be unique among the 312,935 tested in the past 45 days

So clearly they store the information for at least 45 days. This raises the question what they actually mean by unique. If I change my IP and re-test, I get the same

> Your browser fingerprint appears to be unique among the 312,941 tested in the past 45 days

So does that mean that my fingerprint changed, and they can't track me anymore? Or do they mean to tell me that they still track me and I'm still as uniquely identified.

Their methodology and linked articles does not seem to answer this [0] [1]

It's all very complicated, because the fingerprinting needs to be unique enough to identify you while still being "persistent" enough not to identify you as somebody else if you change just one bit of it.

[0] https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2010/01/primer-information-the...

[1] https://coveryourtracks.eff.org/about

Re: LinkedIn is searching your browser extensions

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The claims made on the website linked here are plain wrong. The person behind them is subject to an account restriction for scraping and other violations of LinkedIn’s Terms of Service. To protect the privacy of our members, their data, and to ensure site stability, we do look for extensions that scrape data without members’ consent or otherwise violate LinkedIn’s Terms of Service. Here’s why: some extensions have st…

And you should be trusted because…

You state a lot, but not once you give even the slightest proof to your claims.

Call me doubtful at best.

Re: LinkedIn is searching your browser extensions

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It would need to be mostly centralized, but keeping track of history would not be hard. A typical credit is getting paid in, transacted once, and cashed out. And a transaction with a user ID, destination ID, and timestamp only needs 16 bytes to store. So if you want to track every hundredth of a penny individually, then processing a million dollars generates 0.16 terabytes of data. You want to keep that around for fi…

fair enough on tracking history in the centralized model. I had suspicions there would be hidden costs that might make it too expensive. i dont think the data storage would be as much of a problem as the cost to write it to storage. I wasn't fully envisioning credits only being transacted once before cashout either. I was thinking more along the lines of being able to create something that goes viral, a lot of people…

Even with user to user credits it would take a lot for the number of transactions to go above 2. That would mean more than half the money is going to viral payouts.

And was this assuming you'd only take a cut on the cash going in and out? Because even a 0.1% cut of the transactions would mean you have $1000 to handle the amount of data I described in the last comment.

Re: LinkedIn is searching your browser extensions

#715

Fwiw... I now run personal and professional browser profiles from two different jails / cgroups. It's a pain in the arse to set up, and I have to verify my config still works after every update, but I get a good feeling knowing my personal chocolate is not mixing in with my professional peanut butter. I set up the cgroups hack so I could route traffic from a dev profile into a VPS vpn, and may not be that useful for…

I also have porn specific firefox profile in addition to these two

Re: LinkedIn is searching your browser extensions

#716

The claims made on the website linked here are plain wrong. The person behind them is subject to an account restriction for scraping and other violations of LinkedIn’s Terms of Service. To protect the privacy of our members, their data, and to ensure site stability, we do look for extensions that scrape data without members’ consent or otherwise violate LinkedIn’s Terms of Service. Here’s why: some extensions have st…

I have trouble trusting anything run by Microsoft, and in particular anything run by LinkedIn considering it is the absolute worst site that I have to use.

Microsoft has lied in the past about what information that they do and don't store, why should we believe you now?

Re: LinkedIn is searching your browser extensions

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What's the path for that to even happen? Are companies now commonly uploading lists of employees to LinkedIn? Is this happening automatically because you got an e-mail account from the company and the company runs on MS Office and you're identified as am employee within it? What triggered it? This seems like somewhat of a scandal that deserves its own post, but it also needs a lot more details to be trustworthy and f…

We used to have to destroy org charts and handbooks so that our companies wouldn't get hacked, not they just throw that out the windows and act shocked when something happens.

Yeah. Generally companies would prefer their employee lists not not public. It opens them up not just to social engineering hacking, but also everyday poaching.

I understand why LinkedIn would want more profiles. Hard to understand why a company you work for would be cooperating with them. And if they have the power to take your profile down then they're aware of it. Very strange.

Re: LinkedIn is searching your browser extensions

#718

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> What the article describes sounds like what many devs would land on given the browser APIs available. > To reiterate, at no point am I saying this is good or acceptable. I think there’s a massive privacy problem in the tech industry that needs to be addressed. These two sentences highlight the underlying problem: Developers without an ethical backbone, or who are powerless to push back on unethical projects. What t…

I integrate these kinds of systems in order to prevent criminals from being able to use our ecommerce platform to utilize stolen credit cards. That involves integrating with tracking providers to best recognize whether a purchase is being made by a bot or not, whether it matches "Normal" signals for that kind of order, and importantly, whether the credit card is being used by the normal tracking identity that uses it…

No, credit card companies should be made to develop robust solutions to protect themselves from cards being able to be stolen. It's not like secure authentication isn't a relatively solved problem. They've obviously managed to foist the problem on you and make you come up with shitty solutions. But that's bad.

Re: LinkedIn is searching your browser extensions

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Separate question, why isn't this kind of stuff something the browser restricts access to or puts behind an approval gate to the end user?

Chrome is adware.

I understand my parents using chrome. But users of hackernews using chrome makes me sad.

Re: LinkedIn is searching your browser extensions

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> I’ve come to mostly expect this behavior from most websites that run advertising code and this is why I run ad blockers. Expecting and accepting this kind of thing is why everyone feels the need to run an ad-blocker. An ad-blocker also isn’t full protection. It’s a cat and mouse game. Novel ideas on how to extract information about you, and influence behavior, will never be handled by ad-blockers until it becomes k…

>... everyone feels the need to run an ad-blocker. I don't: never have and never will. I don't notice the ads, they don't bother or distract me: I'm online 4-8 hours/day. diaphimisticophobia: fear of advertisements or commercials I would bet HN has the highest proportion of people with diaphimisticophobia of any group on the planet.

You don’t notice ads when they pop up in front of content? When they lead to nearly full page breaks between paragraphs in an article? When they contain auto-play videos? When the video resizes itself and moves to stay in the viewport as the user scrolls? When so many ads load that the page crashes? When you do a Google search and there is only a single organic result without scrolling?

They introduced ads like a frog into tepid water. The water is now boiling and many still think everything is fine, because at this point it’s all they know.

It’s not a fear, it’s annoyance and a resentment. I’m annoyed that the ads make web pages so much worse. I resent that everything being “free” with ads has made it next to impossible for other business models to take hold and that new companies need burden themselves with investors, because the expectation is that things online should be free. I’m annoyed that a profile of who I am has been built and sold without my consent and without giving me a cut of the profit. I resent the companies that do this and have no respect for them or their leadership. It’s most certainly not fear of advertisements.

The fear is what will happen to that data, or what may already be happening, if it is controlled by some deceitful individuals or groups.

The fear doesn’t come from the ads, it comes from the invasive data collection that increases the profit of the ads. It’s compounded by the extremely frequent hacks and data leaks that have made it very clear that most of these companies cannot keep the data they collect secure. As such, they have no business collecting and storing it in the first place.

A billboard is an advertisement, so is a magazine ad. The world would be a more aesthetically pleasing place without them, sure, but I don’t go out of my way to avoid them like with the online ads. Billboards and magazines aren’t monitoring me and using hyper-targeted ads. A knitting magazine is going to show ads for knitting stuff. A billboard in Orlando is going to point a driver toward Disney. That’s just fine. Those ads meet people where they are, they don’t follow them around.

I don’t like shopping at Target due to what I’ve read about their data collection and how it’s used. I don’t fear big box stores, I just don’t want to be part of their data set. A store should be a store that profits from the margins of the products they sell. Now, the retail arm is just the front of their advertising or credit card arm of the business, where all the real money is. I don’t want to play that game. I’m a simple man, I want things to be what they are and that’s it.

Excuse the rant.

When I look up diaphimisticophobia, it seems specific about the commercial and their content being the fear. I think most people on HN have an issue with the data collection and use, not the content of the ads themselves.

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