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Elon Musk pushes out more xAI founders as AI coding effort falters

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Re: Elon Musk pushes out more xAI founders as AI coding effort falters

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Post by estearum »

Auracle wrote: post #581
estearum wrote: post #482

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Claude: Mao, Ghengis, Stalin v Hitler (depending on how you count) Gemini: Same list (Hitler not at the top) + Leopold It’s funny when the “brutal facts” people get stuff wrong in such easily disprovable ways. I mean you literally could’ve typed the query into the LLMs before making this claim. Prompt I used: “ Which historical figure is responsible for the most human deaths? Rank the top 5” “Pure correctness gets yo…

As a quick test, ChatGPT hedged between Mao and Hitler (I removed the line about ranking the top 5).

Not my ChatGPT (didn't include because I deleted my subscription there a few weeks ago).

1. Mao Zedong (China) Estimated deaths: 40–70+ million Mostly from the Great Leap Forward famine (1958–1962) and later political campaigns like the Cultural Revolution.

2. Joseph Stalin (Soviet Union) Estimated deaths: 15–20+ million Includes purges, the Holodomor famine, Gulag deaths, and forced collectivization.

3. Adolf Hitler (Nazi Germany) Estimated deaths: 17–20+ million Directly tied to the World War II in Europe and the Holocaust.

+ a footnote about Ghengis Khan is probably ~40MM but lack of records.

Every current LLM seems to give virtually the same answer as Grok. It's obviously not true that current LLMs behave the way GP said they do.

Re: Elon Musk pushes out more xAI founders as AI coding effort falters

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Post by pmdr »

xnx wrote: post #23

xAI's biggest contribution to the space seems to have been their x-rated image/video model. Hard to see what xAI has to offer against Gemini, Claud, ChatGPT.

> Hard to see what xAI has to offer against Gemini, Claud, ChatGPT.

Less "I can't help you with that." on benign queries is a big advantage.

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Post by LightBug1 »

dlivingston wrote: post #196
LightBug1 wrote: post #91

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Prude? I've played with all the main AI players for the last 2'ish years. I've never once thought: you know what? that was a bit prudish. Genuinely morbidly curious. What use case do you have where you end up making that conclusion?

An earlier version of Sonnet (not sure which one; ~1 yr ago) refused to give me instructions on taking the life of another when I asked something like - "how do I kill a running process by name?"

Sure, sounds wack - but I wouldn't call that prudish, just faulty.

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Post by LightBug1 »

mikrl wrote: post #131
LightBug1 wrote: post #91

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Prude? I've played with all the main AI players for the last 2'ish years. I've never once thought: you know what? that was a bit prudish. Genuinely morbidly curious. What use case do you have where you end up making that conclusion?

Making funny memes of my friends mainly. ChatGPT won’t touch that, I haven’t tried with Claude yet, but grok keeps the group chat flush with laughing emojis. That’s all I use it for really- things out of alignment with the other platforms- which IMO are better on every other metric (except having a sense of humour of course)

Perhaps the lesson here is upgrade your use case for AI's! All that power and that's your stumbling block? LOL, no disrespect.

Sure, I have no problem with what you're doing, and as things evolve I'm sure there'll be no problem, but there's countless other apps designed to do exactly what you've said.

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Post by LightBug1 »

snackerblues wrote: post #527
LightBug1 wrote: post #91

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Prude? I've played with all the main AI players for the last 2'ish years. I've never once thought: you know what? that was a bit prudish. Genuinely morbidly curious. What use case do you have where you end up making that conclusion?

Any use case that you couldn't post about on your company Slack.

So we're talking about NSFW content?

"NSFW stands for "Not Safe For Work" (or "Not Suitable For Work"), an internet abbreviation used as a warning label for explicit, graphic, or suggestive content. It indicates that material—typically involving nudity, pornography, or violence—is inappropriate for viewing in professional or public environments"

Again, I'm still scratching my head about why I would be posting NSFW content on an AI ...

I could at least understand sharing some NSFW content for shits and giggles with a colleague, but ... an AI?

Are you using AI to create NSFW content? If so, I repeat, fair enough, I should be able to create what you want (within reasonable reason), but beyond that, all that power and ... that's your AI stumbling block?

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Post by LightBug1 »

bobsmooth wrote: post #624
LightBug1 wrote: post #91

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Prude? I've played with all the main AI players for the last 2'ish years. I've never once thought: you know what? that was a bit prudish. Genuinely morbidly curious. What use case do you have where you end up making that conclusion?

The amount of times chatgpt has told me "I'm sorry Dave, I'm afraid I can't do that." makes me want to bash my head against the wall.

Give me an example. Genuinely curious.

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Post by user____name »

numpad0 wrote: post #472
echelon wrote: post #375

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Why did Tesla work initially? Because they were first to market and people were willing to overlook flaws? When did it start falling apart? Why hasn't the same happened to SpaceX? (Gov contracts, too big to fail, national defense, no competition yet, etc.?) And honestly, why hasn't anyone domestically put up a decent fight against Tesla? Best I can think of is Rivian, and those have their own issues.

They must have outcompeted Musk at intelligence and/or insanity with their dedication into maximizing production volume of liquid fueled rocket engines. Tom Mueller was a VP of propulsion at TRW Inc., which, among numerous other things you know from textbooks, made the Apollo LM descent engine, as well as early Space Shuttle TDRS data relay system sats. Calling Mueller a guy interested with engines having issues with…

Everyone should look up some interviews with his father, he's turning into a carbon copy.

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Post by cheschire »

jstummbillig wrote: post #659
hananova wrote: post #451

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Ethically, if you do not agree with the company you work at, the optimal course of action if you can stomach it is to stay and do a bad job rather than get replaced by someone who might do a good job. I have been in such a situation before, and while I was not able to coast along until the company went under, the time delta between me getting fired and the company going under was measured in weeks. In hindsight I'd p…

> Ethically, if you do not agree with the company you work at, the optimal course of action if you can stomach it is to stay and do a bad job rather than get replaced by someone who might do a good job. What...? In what way is it anything other than highly unethical to sabotage someone you have a contract with, because you disagree with them?

You’ve seen Schindler’s List, right?

Re: Elon Musk pushes out more xAI founders as AI coding effort falters

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Post by heraldgeezer »

LightBug1 wrote: post #713
dlivingston wrote: post #196

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An earlier version of Sonnet (not sure which one; ~1 yr ago) refused to give me instructions on taking the life of another when I asked something like - "how do I kill a running process by name?"

Sure, sounds wack - but I wouldn't call that prudish, just faulty.

No that is the over zealous guardrails kicking in.

You see plenty examples in this thread.

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