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The United States and Israel have launched a major attack on Iran

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Post by qup »

gruez wrote: post #656
ourmandave wrote: post #577

Again, little to no information for the US public. No approval from Congress. Calling for the people to rise up. You can't bomb your way into regime change. Are we supplying arms to groups? Is there a plan beyond pointless death and regional chaos the president would like to share?

>No approval from Congress. To be fair that's been the case for decades. Trump's hardly new in this.

Needs to notify Congress within 48 hours (and he did beforehand), and has 60 days before needing Congress to declare war.

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Post by rambojohnson »

Arun2009 wrote: post #426

I am just befuddled by how much of this violence is directly motivated by religious concerns, both on the side of Iran and on the side of Israel and USA. I have been reading on the topic of shunyata or emptiness in Mahayana Buddhism, and have been uncomfortably observing just how much of the artifacts we take to be real and substantial in the world are just "made up". They don't have an inherent reality of their own…

You’re mistaking the packaging for the product. Religion is the language leaders use. Power, territory, oil corridors, regional dominance, and domestic political survival are what they’re actually fighting over.

Tehran isn’t calculating missile ranges based on sutras. Washington doesn’t position carrier groups because of metaphysics. Israel’s security doctrine isn’t a meditation retreat.

Spiritual narratives make clean moral theater for the public. They mobilize bodies. They sanctify retaliation. But the machinery underneath runs on leverage and deterrence, not theology.

Wake up to the real world.

Calling it primarily religious violence feels tidy and tragic in a philosophical way. It’s harder, and more uncomfortable, to admit that it’s strategic violence dressed in symbols people recognize.

Shunyata is a beautiful lens for seeing through ego. It doesn’t dissolve geopolitics.

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Post by Svoka »

Bender wrote: post #557
yodsanklai wrote: post #396

Nothing like a war to boost your popularity just before the elections

Nothing like a war to boost your popularity just before the elections Congress will not let him have a third term regardless of what he says or thinks.

In russia they had 2 terms limit as well. Putin found a quick work-around by basically running through Proxy.

I can see JD being a figurehead with very public Trump support.

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Post by yoyohello13 »

ozgung wrote: post #599
epolanski wrote: post #351

The president of peace btw. I'm baffled at the lack of calls to boycott the Fifa world cup in US. And at the double standards applied to Russians and Israelis in their wars of aggression. I guess Israel can play the "October 7th" card at least which was an insane horror.

I don't want to insult you but your president is a populist and a TV personality. He is not a policy maker, he is more like an actor. So your country went into war mode by changing the name of the Department of Defence to Department of War. This was not a cosmetic change. This means peace times are over and you are in war. Your government acts accordingly. Since you are still a democracy find those people who make yo…

The Trump admin would sooner drop nukes on LA then cede a fair election.

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Post by primroot »

reliabilityguy wrote: post #613
epolanski wrote: post #351

The president of peace btw. I'm baffled at the lack of calls to boycott the Fifa world cup in US. And at the double standards applied to Russians and Israelis in their wars of aggression. I guess Israel can play the "October 7th" card at least which was an insane horror.

> And at the double standards applied to Russians and Israelis in their wars of aggression. I would argue that funding Axis of Resistance from Hezbollah to Houthis is aggression too. Let’s not pretend that IR minded their own business, and suddenly was under attack.

It's called R2P.

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Post by parineum »

ourmandave wrote: post #577

Again, little to no information for the US public. No approval from Congress. Calling for the people to rise up. You can't bomb your way into regime change. Are we supplying arms to groups? Is there a plan beyond pointless death and regional chaos the president would like to share?

> No approval from Congress.

I don't support it but there's blanket approval from Congress from the AUMF.

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Post by coldtea »

ozgung wrote: post #599
epolanski wrote: post #351

The president of peace btw. I'm baffled at the lack of calls to boycott the Fifa world cup in US. And at the double standards applied to Russians and Israelis in their wars of aggression. I guess Israel can play the "October 7th" card at least which was an insane horror.

I don't want to insult you but your president is a populist and a TV personality. He is not a policy maker, he is more like an actor. So your country went into war mode by changing the name of the Department of Defence to Department of War. This was not a cosmetic change. This means peace times are over and you are in war. Your government acts accordingly. Since you are still a democracy find those people who make yo…

>I don't want to insult you but your president is a populist and a TV personality. He is not a policy maker, he is more like an actor.

All of them are, even those that haven't had a show on TV.

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Post by underlipton »

epolanski wrote: post #351

The president of peace btw. I'm baffled at the lack of calls to boycott the Fifa world cup in US. And at the double standards applied to Russians and Israelis in their wars of aggression. I guess Israel can play the "October 7th" card at least which was an insane horror.

>I guess Israel can play the "October 7th" card at least which was an insane horror.

More than twice as many people died in Puerto Rico during Hurricane Maria than on October 7th.

My regard is thus: lobs less than half an intercontinental ballistic roll of paper towels at Tel Aviv

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Post by hearsathought »

epolanski wrote: post #351

The president of peace btw. I'm baffled at the lack of calls to boycott the Fifa world cup in US. And at the double standards applied to Russians and Israelis in their wars of aggression. I guess Israel can play the "October 7th" card at least which was an insane horror.

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