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Claws are now a new layer on top of LLM agents

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Re: Claws are now a new layer on top of LLM agents

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Post by zhubert »

The challenging thing for those of us that have gone around the sun a few times is that…you’re just going to have to figure it out yourself.

We can tell you to be cautious or aware of security bullshit, but there’s a current that’s buying Mac Mini’s and you want to be in it.

Nothing I can say changes that and as a grown up, you get to roll those dice yourself.

70% of you are going to be fine and encourage others, the rest are going to get pwnd, and that’s how it goes.

You’re doing something that decades or prior experience warned you about.

Re: Claws are now a new layer on top of LLM agents

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Post by adrianN »

conception wrote: post #702
IMTDb wrote: post #494

Earlier quoted context omitted.

So human become just a provider of those 6 digits code ? That’s already the main problem i have with most agents: I want them to perform a very easy task: « fetch all recepts from website x,y and z and upload them to the correct expense of my expense tracking tool ». Ai are perfectly capable of performing this. But because every website requires sso + 2 fa, without any possibility to remove this, so i effectively hav…

!!DO NOT DO THIS!! You can use 1password and 1password cli to give it mfa access and passwords at its leisure.

One prompt injection away from sending all your credentials to the Internet?

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Post by colbyn »

dang wrote: post #419

All: quite a few comments in this thread (and another one we merged hither - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47099160 ) have contained personal attacks. Hopefully most of them are [flagged] and/or [dead] now. On HN, please don't cross into personal attack no matter how strongly you feel about someone or disagree with them. It's destructive of what the site is for, and we moderate and/or ban accounts that do it.…

I’m confused can someone please explain to me why he or she is so controversial?

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Post by dang »

colbyn wrote: post #713
dang wrote: post #419

All: quite a few comments in this thread (and another one we merged hither - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47099160 ) have contained personal attacks. Hopefully most of them are [flagged] and/or [dead] now. On HN, please don't cross into personal attack no matter how strongly you feel about someone or disagree with them. It's destructive of what the site is for, and we moderate and/or ban accounts that do it.…

I’m confused can someone please explain to me why he or she is so controversial?

The personal attacks I saw were against different people, not just one. In a lot of cases it's just routine internet cynicism, which is always amplified against unusually successful or prominent people.

There's also a lot of fear and anger about the AI tsunami these days, among certain user cohorts, and that's an amplifier as well.

On HN, personal attacks aren't allowed regardless of who's being attacked, and comments are asked to make their substantive points thoughtfully and not be cynical or snarky. Here's one guideline:

"Don't be curmudgeonly. Thoughtful criticism is fine, but please don't be rigidly or generically negative."

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

Re: Claws are now a new layer on top of LLM agents

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Post by [deleted] »

dang wrote: post #714
colbyn wrote: post #713

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I’m confused can someone please explain to me why he or she is so controversial?

The personal attacks I saw were against different people, not just one. In a lot of cases it's just routine internet cynicism, which is always amplified against unusually successful or prominent people. There's also a lot of fear and anger about the AI tsunami these days, among certain user cohorts, and that's an amplifier as well. On HN, personal attacks aren't allowed regardless of who's being attacked, and comment…

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Re: Claws are now a new layer on top of LLM agents

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Post by nradov »

deepsquirrelnet wrote: post #382
nradov wrote: post #371

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The DoD was pursuing autonomous AI weapons decades ago, and succeeded as of 1979 with the Mk 60 Captor Mine. https://www.vp4association.com/aircraft-information-2/32-2/m... The worries over Skynet and other sci-fi apocalypse scenarios are so silly.

Self awareness is silly, but the capacity for a powerful minority to oppress a sizeable population without recruiting human soldiers might not be that far off.

The more automation a weapons system has, the more human technicians are needed to keep it working.

Re: Claws are now a new layer on top of LLM agents

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Post by fourthark »

xp84 wrote: post #697
mncharity wrote: post #565

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yesterday IMG tag history came up, prompting a memory lane wander. Reminding me that in 1992-ish, pre `www.foo` convention, I'd create DNS pairs, foo-www and foo-http. One for humans, and one to sling sexps. I remember seeing the CGI (serve url from a script) proposal posted, and thinking it was so bad (eg url 256-ish character limit) that no one would use it, so I didn't need to worry about it. Oops. "Oh, here's a s…

sexps?

Presumably https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/S-expression

Re: Claws are now a new layer on top of LLM agents

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Post by ripe »

xp84 wrote: post #697
mncharity wrote: post #565

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yesterday IMG tag history came up, prompting a memory lane wander. Reminding me that in 1992-ish, pre `www.foo` convention, I'd create DNS pairs, foo-www and foo-http. One for humans, and one to sling sexps. I remember seeing the CGI (serve url from a script) proposal posted, and thinking it was so bad (eg url 256-ish character limit) that no one would use it, so I didn't need to worry about it. Oops. "Oh, here's a s…

sexps?

> sexps?

Not the person you're responding to, but I think they mean sexps as in S-expressions [1]. These are used in all kinds of programming, and they have been used inside protocols for markup, as in the email protocol IMAP.

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/S-expression

Re: Claws are now a new layer on top of LLM agents

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Post by colbyn »

dang wrote: post #714
colbyn wrote: post #713

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I’m confused can someone please explain to me why he or she is so controversial?

The personal attacks I saw were against different people, not just one. In a lot of cases it's just routine internet cynicism, which is always amplified against unusually successful or prominent people. There's also a lot of fear and anger about the AI tsunami these days, among certain user cohorts, and that's an amplifier as well. On HN, personal attacks aren't allowed regardless of who's being attacked, and comment…

Okay I see. Are people being attacked for engaging in AI research/dev irrespective of their character or other personal attributes?
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