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Euro firms must ditch Uncle Sam's clouds and go EU-native

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Re: Euro firms must ditch Uncle Sam's clouds and go EU-native

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If that's the issue, then EU will have to either allow this or subsidize alternatives that don't, otherwise they will not be able to compete.

The third (and the best) option is to outlaw private data exchage with no consent and strictly enforce this with fines. See: GDPR.

That will make EU companies fail to compete in the global market.

Re: Euro firms must ditch Uncle Sam's clouds and go EU-native

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It's not that guaranteed. The reality is that if you have any interest, company or employees in the US you can be coerced to do anything the US government wants. Either legally through courts, or through business influence, or through harassment (e.g. hardcore checks from the IRS). Sorry, Stripe rejects you now because you are high-risk (you have to explain why you refuse to help in criminal cases, though there is a…

There are EU alternatives to Stripe. I know what you meant, but I think that there are alternatives, even if they are maybe not as good as the ones made in US. Also, if the goal is to go all in on data sovereignty, so be it - put the companies in the sanctions list. It will only grow.

> Also, if the goal is to go all in on data sovereignty,

maybe start with DE-CIX ? (or other internet nodes)

Re: Euro firms must ditch Uncle Sam's clouds and go EU-native

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Take a look here: https://wero-wallet.eu/

Looking forward having this in the country where I live and in the countries I mostly travel to! Well, actually all over EU. What is unclear to me atm, is it possible to rent a car using wero? Also, can I pay online with it?

It's on the roadmap. There are online shops that accept Wero already https://wero-wallet.eu/e-m-commerce

Re: Euro firms must ditch Uncle Sam's clouds and go EU-native

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Is he pro-tivoization, or is he not against it? I heard him talk about GPLv3 someday, and what he said was that it was a mistake to call it "GPLv3", as if it was the evolution of GPLv2, because for him it should have been a totally different licence. Which I find fair: there are different kinds of copyleft (like MPL vs GPL), it makes sense to say that GPLv2 is a different concept than GPLv3. Whereas I don't know if a…

GPLv2 was clearly intended to let you change the software on your devices. In some countries, GPLv2 already prohibits tivoization. However, big tech found an exploit: In some countries, GPLv2 allows tivoization. This was not intended by the authors of the GPLv2. There was another exploit involving patent licenses, and a reverse exploit about license termination that allowed some developers to extort some users. They…

Well, that's not really mutually exclusive with what I said. Those who called it GPLv3 consider it's a bugfix, those who decided to stay on GPLv2 consider it's a new licence.

Re: Euro firms must ditch Uncle Sam's clouds and go EU-native

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The third (and the best) option is to outlaw private data exchage with no consent and strictly enforce this with fines. See: GDPR.

That will make EU companies fail to compete in the global market.

Should companies polluting the environment also get the free pass in order to compete in the global market that doesn't value the world's future?

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Yeah, human brain is amazing. After I reading many AI replies, this kind style just stands out, even though I can't precisely describe it.

To me it is simply good writing, the kind that is found in literature, but feels a bit out of place in discussions on the internet. What makes it stand out is that real English speaker on the internet are way more casual in their writing. I’ve also noticed that non native English speaker are sometimes mistaken for LLMs due to these less casual sentences structure.

Yup, exactly. As a non-native speaker, I phrase things a little differently. Also, I’m used to using em dashes (from academia), but now that's considered an AI tell. Shit's dumb.

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> why Europe should start treating us like Russians. I don't know, maybe because your president is a dangerous lunatic? I really enjoy these "are we the baddies?" moments.

I’m not sure he’s getting it yet. Maybe he’s just not personally affected yet.

I usually operate under the opposite world view. If you've been personally affected by something, I no longer really trust you to be fair and honest and logical. I don't want to hear about setting speed limits from someone that lost their child in a car accident.

Re: Euro firms must ditch Uncle Sam's clouds and go EU-native

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AWS in China doesn't have KMS

https://aws.amazon.com/about-aws/whats-new/2019/06/aws-kms-n... https://www.amazonaws.cn/en/about-aws/regional-product-servi...

That isn't the same KMS that everyone else uses. It is approved by the CCP so has a backdoor.

Re: Euro firms must ditch Uncle Sam's clouds and go EU-native

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> This isn't just compliance theater; it's a straight‑up national economic security play. The woes of LLM contrasts… In all seriousness, the points made ring true not only for European companies and should make everyone consider the implications of the current situation, as dreary as they are.

Just as America would like to reduce its dependence on external production, so to do other countries want to reduce their own. We used to live in a world converging toward maximal international trade, when in fact it was exploiting underdeveloped nations. As we progress globally, and as the development gap shrinks, we have noticed power dynamics which weren't well guarded against in the old way. So now what? How do w…

Even without national protectionism we are still experiencing isolationism, expect instead of it being done by nations in the interest of their citizens it is being done by corporations in the interest of their shareholders and it's leading to a dangerous amount of centralization as well.

Compatibility protocols are probably the best answer, allow individual countries to develop software they trust to interact with internationally accepted protocols and formats. As you said, good luck getting anyone to agree to anything. If email didn't already exist I don't think it would even be possible to implement today.

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