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24fps was never an intentional choice but more of a compromise for economic reasons.

Anyone choosing 24 FPS with a digital workflow is absolutely doing it intentionally. Part of that may be historical reasons or matching expectations, but it's also a factor in some of the illusion that goes into movies.

The "illusion" is simply people being used to 24fps after it has been in use for so long.

Re: Stranger Things creator says turn off “garbage” settings

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still looks like yellow piss.

Disclaimer: i prefer movies to look like reality. but apparently this is far away from "artistic purpose".

What does “like reality” mean?

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Apologies, “Netflix” has become like hoover, Google, or Kleenex - eponymous for the product.

Thats definitely an American way of speaking.

Americans don't call a vacuum cleaner a Hoover, do they? The British definitely do.

Re: Stranger Things creator says turn off “garbage” settings

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Anyone choosing 24 FPS with a digital workflow is absolutely doing it intentionally. Part of that may be historical reasons or matching expectations, but it's also a factor in some of the illusion that goes into movies.

The "illusion" is simply people being used to 24fps after it has been in use for so long.

Makeup and wardrobe and lighting are all impacted by frame rate.

You can see cheap set decoration at 48 fps. It disappears at 24 fps.

Re: Stranger Things creator says turn off “garbage” settings

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I really wish they had to advertise streams at bitrate and not resolution.

Netflix's main audience is general public who still cannot differentiate between mbps and MBps. for us nerds there is hidden stats for nerds option. https://blog.sayan.page/netflix-debug-mode/

millibits per second is awfully slow.

Re: Stranger Things creator says turn off “garbage” settings

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The whites in Filmmaker Mode are not off. They'll look warm to you if you're used to the too-blue settings, but they're completely and measurably correct. I'd suggest living with it for a while; if you do, you'll quickly get used to it, and then going to the "standard" (sic) setting will look too blue.

The problem is that comparing to all the monitors I have, specifically the one in my Lenovo Yoga OLED that is supposed to be very accurate, whites are very warm in filmmaker mode. What's that about?

Your monitor is probably set to the wrong settings for film content. Almost all monitors are set to a cool white point out of the box. If you're not producing film or color calibrated photography on your monitor, there is no standard white temperature for PC displays.

Re: Stranger Things creator says turn off “garbage” settings

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Just because someone has different taste doesn't make it bad taste. Books have lower resolution still, and they evoke far greater imaginative leaps. For me, the magic lies in what is not shown; it helps aid the suspension of disbelief by requiring you imagination to do more work filling in the gaps. I'm an avid video game player, and while FPS and sports-adjacent games demand high framerates, I'm perfectly happy turn…

Do framerates effect antialiasing?

In the broadest sense of the word, aliasing refers to a problem where an insufficient number of samples create a misrepresentation of an intended signal source. I was being a bit poetic, because in graphics programming, where the term "antialiasing" is most often encountered by lay audiences, antialiasing generally refers to X/Y sampling coordinate correction rather than representations across time. It's not usually considered a major issue in vision, because our brains naturally fill in the gaps pretty easily across time for motion (they already naturally do this for eg blinking, you don't see your eyelids when you blink). So usually antialiasing across time is only an issue in audio domains for the layperson, where a misrepresentation of a sample might be perceived as an entirely different pitch, since our ears need >40k samples per second (for accurate high pitches) vs the 24 samples per second that we are accustomed to getting in old fashioned film. When our eyes "miss" a frame or two, our brain is happy to fill in the gaps, ie "antialiasing."

Edit: to clarify, I'm suggesting that some people might prefer to let their brains "fill in the missing frames" rather than see the extra frames shown explicitly. For example, you might be more likely to notice visual tearing at 60Hz than you are to take note of visual tearing at 24Hz when you're already accustomed to filling in the missing pieces, or to a greater extreme, across two panels of a comic strip portraying motion.

Re: Stranger Things creator says turn off “garbage” settings

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post #388

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I'm not a speaker sales person, believe whatever you want.

Do you realize that phones, tablets, laptops, most PCs don't have an option of "just add speakers"? You are technically correct, yes full Dolby Duper Atmo 9.2.4.8.100500 system is better. But people without them are not using their setups incorrectly, they have valid setups they have valid use case and they don't get basic level of quality which IS possible and WAS possible just a few years ago with proper channel mi…

It is entirely the fault of people buying shitty plastic shovelware pc laptops that they ended up with laptops with dogshit speakers. You can buy laptops with good sounding speakers

https://github.com/AsahiLinux/asahi-audio

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It ruins it for me as well but from my understanding many people can't tell the difference.

Yes! A lot people can't tell the difference. It's just sad. Tells you how engaged people are with what they they watch.

I briefly feel bad for them but then I remind myself who am I to judge how they perceive things? It is possible that they get the same enjoyment from the story with all the effects and artifacts these TVs have. When I was a kid we had this smallish (probably 14-15") B/W TV set in my kitchen. Sometimes my whole family would watch a movie on that TV set and we were all absorbed into the movies, it didn't matter the TV set was small and colorless, back then I hadn't even seen a TV broadcast in colors. It's all relative I guess. Sometimes I think this soap opera effect is even worse than watching movies on that small TV set form my childhood but then again, who am I to judge?

Re: Stranger Things creator says turn off “garbage” settings

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It’s very bad.

It really isn't. I keep seeing comparisons to the last seasons of Game of Thrones, but while there is a dip in quality this season, it is no where near as bad as what happened to GoT.

I’ve never watched Game of Thrones, but I doubt their dialogue is so robotic and frankly just feels incredibly formulaic. It just feels like ST ran out of ideas three years ago and have just been recycling the same scene over and over and over again.
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