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15 years ago, every company had its own "BlahBlah Studio" IDE built on top of Eclipse. Now it's VSCode. Meanwhile, JetBrains IDEs are still the best, but remain unpopular outside of Android Studio.

And IntelliJ PyCharm’s lack of popularity surprises me. Maybe it’s not good enough at venvs

Oh, it's good at venvs. Lots of flexibility too on whether to use pip, conda, or uv.

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At best, that's subjective, but it's fact that JetBrains is comically far behind when it comes to AI tooling. They have a chance to compete fresh with Fleet, but they are not making progress on even the basic IDE there, let alone getting anywhere near Cursor when it comes to LLM integration.

JetBrains' advantage is that they have full integration and better understanding of your code. WebStorm works better with TypeScript than even Microsoft's own creation. This all translates into AI performance Have you actually given them a real test yet - either Junie or even the baseline chat?

Junie is good. Needs a few UI tweaks, but the code it generates is state of the art.

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Native app dev is covered in red tape and puts you at the mercy of Apple etc. It's unfortunate that things are so inefficient now, but competition is good, and native platforms can get good.

> Native app dev is covered in red tape and puts you at the mercy of Apple etc. ... Aren't we talking about a programming IDE here? When did mobile become anything like the primary market for that? Are people expected to sit around for hours inputting symbols with an OSK?

Mac. It's a pain to target, and I don't mean cause of the code signing.

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That's a big name for a slop fork. So many possibilities (with LLMs and without) but Google just can't bring themselves to do anything creative, let alone transformative.

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VSCode is based on Chromium. https://chromium.googlesource.com/chromium/src/+/HEAD/docs/v...

Which is based on Apple Webkit? The winner is always the last marketable brand.

that's a bit misleading. it was based on webcore which apple had forked from khtml. however google found apple's addition to be a drag and i think very little of it (if anything at all, besides the khtml foundation) survived "the great cleanup" and rewrite that became blink. so actually webkit was a just transitional phase that led to a dead end and it is more accurate to say that blink is based on khtml.

Re: Google Antigravity

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> Spin up agents to tackle routine tasks that take you out of your flow, such as codebase research, bug fixes, and backlog tasks. The software of the future, where nobody on staff knows how anything is built, no one understands why anything breaks, and cruft multiplies exponentially. But at least we're not taken out of our flow!

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How is a compiler and an LLM equivalent abstractions? I'm also seriously doubtful of the 10x claim any time someone brings it up when AI is being discussed. I'm sure they can be 10x for some problems but they can also be -10x. They're not as consistently predictable (and good) like compilers are.

The "learn to master it or become obsolete" sentiment also doesn't make a lot of sense to me. Isn't the whole point of AI as a technology that people shouldn't need to spend years mastering a craft to do something well? It's literally trying to automate intelligence.

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Which is based on Apple Webkit? The winner is always the last marketable brand.

Both are based on khtml. We could be living in a very different world if all that effort stayed inside the KDE ecosystem

> Both are based on khtml. We could be living in a very different world if all that effort stayed inside the KDE ecosystem

How so?

Do you think thousands of googlers and apple engineers could be reasonably managed by some KDE opensource contributors? Or do you imagine google and apple would have taken over KDE? (Does anyone want that? Sounds horrible.)

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Which is based on Apple Webkit? The winner is always the last marketable brand.

It's "based on WebKit" like English is based on Germanic languages.

English is a Germanic language. It’s part of the West Germanic branch of the Germanic family of languages.
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