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Post by block_dagger »

morleytj wrote: post #559
raincole wrote: post #547

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As a social experiment to reveal how senseless and pointless pop entertainment could be. (personal rant) I've been in a mild existential crisis since I read Amusing Ourselves to Death . Can one form of entertainment really be more well-regarded than another? Is fine art fundamentally different from pop art? Are there 'finer' pop cultures amongst all pop cultures? I do still think reading The Song of Ice and Fire is m…

I think reading does force more long term focus, even if it's marginal for certain books. Certainly moreso than scrolling TikTok. My personal process of grappling with this led to a focus on agency and intentionality when defining the difference. Scrolling TikTok, much as scrolling Twitter or Facebook or Instagram or YouTube's recommendations would be, is an entirely passive activity. You sit back and you allow the C…

Where does HN comment lurking lie in the range between passivity and active evaluation, I wonder?

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Post by [deleted] »

afavour wrote: post #597
JacobThreeThree wrote: post #579

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This does not make any sense. There's far more economic opportunity with AGI.

But if it’s more than a few years out then investors will start getting upset. They want money and are short term minded.

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Post by ares623 »

Andrex wrote: post #706
mckn1ght wrote: post #696

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Until games also become uniquely generative in realtime

For multiplayer games, I'm not sure that would be a detriment to the experience in any way. Procedural generation is a known quantity in gaming, with well-explored pros and cons.

But if the marketing fueling the industry is to be believed, every parent will be able to build a tailor-made game for their child. I know that won’t really how it’ll turn out but it’s a funny exercise to think about.

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Post by lm28469 »

janalsncm wrote: post #512
latexr wrote: post #446

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At that point, why even buy the clothes? Influencers will just post the video of the mockup on social media, which is the only reason they were considering it in the first place. Save themselves the foot fungus. https://xcancel.com/Naija_PR/status/1904809073356251634 Then take the next step. Why even spend money going out? Generate a video of yourself with fake friends at a party and post that, while eating ice cream…

Because food still tastes good whether or not it looks good. There are other sources of happiness than online validation.

Just wait for Musk's implent, it'll make ozempic pills taste like pizzas and burgers

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Post by lukan »

morleytj wrote: post #496
the_duke wrote: post #273

I haven't seen comments regarding a big factor here: It seems like OpenAI is trying to turn Sora into a social network - TikTok but AI. The webapp is heavily geared towards consumption, with a feed as the entry point, liking and commenting for posts, and user profiles having a prominent role. The creation aspect seems about as important as on Instagram, TikTok etc - easily available, but not the primary focus. Genera…

Not to be a downer, but even as someone very optimistic about technology and AI generally, "TikTok but AI" sounds like a societally terrible thing to try and create. What's the benefit of this? Curious if anyone has a solid viewpoint steelmanning any positives they can think of.

"What's the benefit of this?"

User engagement. That translates into money.

Now I can see it can make for a fun party game, but that they seriously go after it, when their game should be leading models to do serious work ... is not a great sign to me.

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Post by vasco »

the_duke wrote: post #273

I haven't seen comments regarding a big factor here: It seems like OpenAI is trying to turn Sora into a social network - TikTok but AI. The webapp is heavily geared towards consumption, with a feed as the entry point, liking and commenting for posts, and user profiles having a prominent role. The creation aspect seems about as important as on Instagram, TikTok etc - easily available, but not the primary focus. Genera…

Tiktok is already AITok.

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Post by rvz »

lukan wrote: post #715
morleytj wrote: post #496

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Not to be a downer, but even as someone very optimistic about technology and AI generally, "TikTok but AI" sounds like a societally terrible thing to try and create. What's the benefit of this? Curious if anyone has a solid viewpoint steelmanning any positives they can think of.

"What's the benefit of this?" User engagement. That translates into money. Now I can see it can make for a fun party game, but that they seriously go after it, when their game should be leading models to do serious work ... is not a great sign to me.

And users paying to generate longer videos.

Not only it has the slot-machine like addiction factor, it's going to make lots of money and it will take off very quickly.

All OpenAI has to do is to make the video generation much much faster.

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Post by FrancisMoodie »

oceanplexian wrote: post #676
gyomu wrote: post #596

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> This is not the final target The final target of these "world models" on a 20 year horizon is entirely unmanned factories taking over the economy, and swarm of drones and robots fighting wars and policing citizens. This is why hundreds of billions are poured into these things, cute Ghibli style videos and vacuum robots wouldn't be worth this much money otherwise.

What’s so romantic about working in factories? Automation and robotics will accelerate the economy the same way information technology did, and humans will work on better problems than performing repeated tasks on an assembly line or flipping burgers. There are arguably more jobs today as a result of computers than there were before they were invented. So why is the assumption that AI will magically delete all jobs w…

> So why is the assumption that AI will magically delete all jobs while discounting the fact that it will create careers we haven’t even thought of?

I think that in a vacuum you could reasonably believe that this might be the case but I feel like it isn't just about the technology these days, it's about the hunger c-suites and tech companies have for replacing workforce with ai and/or automation. It's quite clear that layoffs and mass adoption of AI/automation raises shareholder value so there is no incentive to create new jobs.

Will there be an organic shift away from Tech/IT/Computers into new fields? It might, but I think it's a bit naive to think that this will be proportionate to the careers AI will make redundant when there is such a big focus on eliminating as much jobs as possible in lieu of AI.

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Post by kouteiheika »

davidmurdoch wrote: post #589

I just asked GPT 5 to generate an image of as person. I then asked it to charge the color of their shirt. It refused because "I can’t generate that specific image because it violates our content policies." I then asked it to just regenerate the first image again using the same prompt. It replied "I know this has been frustrating. You’ve been really clear about what you want, and it feels like I’m blocking you for no…

(insert the "First time?" meme here)

This is classic OpenAI heavy-handed censorship/filtering. Don't expect it to get any better; if anything, it'll get worse thanks to the "think of the children" types.

If you want an uncensored model that doesn't patronize you then your only recourse are local models, which, fortunately, are pretty good nowadays and are only getting better thanks to our Chinese friends constantly releasing a stream of freely-licensed models for everyone to use, unlike the "freedom loving" Western labs which don't release squat and make even Xi Jinping blush with how strongly they censor whatever they let us lowly plebs access through a paywalled API.

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Post by baalimago »

They can't even be consistent within their own launch video. Consistency is by far the biggest issue with generative AI. How can a professional studio work with scenes which has continuity errors on every single shot? And if it's not targeting professionals, who is it for?
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