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What if I don't want videos of my hobby time available to the world?

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Post by scotty79 »

prmoustache wrote: post #313
jen729w wrote: post #11

I get it, but the alternative is what? Get model release forms from anyone in a public space every time you turn your video camera on? Who's to say how much of you I have in the shot? Do you feature? Did you flash by? Are you blurred? Recognisable? I was shooting video of a car park exit last year. (I was trying to prove to the shopping centre owners that it was dangerous.) Mundane footage. Some lady drives out in he…

>I get it, but the alternative is what? Get model release forms from anyone in a public space every time you turn your video camera on? Not every thing has to be recorded. It is like all those runners and cyclists who log and share all their runs/rides on Strava without even taking the time to figure out if it really serves a purpose other than a vain attention seeking.

> vain attention seeking

Why are you shaming people for seeking what they obviously lack and need for their psychological well being?

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Post by alexriddle »

TRiG_Ireland wrote: post #660
sarchertech wrote: post #558

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I noticed you said “the whole day” I went a wedding once where the bride was from the UK. They said it was a “British style” wedding. It was almost exactly like an American wedding except that everything lasted twice as long (cocktail hour was 2 hours etc…). I could never find out if this was a common thing in the UK or not.

I believe that it's uncommon in the USA to invite people to part of a wedding, but it's common in the UK. "Not someone invited to the whole day" implies a second-tier guest, who's been invited to the ceremony and the after-party, but not to the meal. The ceremony is technically open to the public in any case, usually.

Usually it would be either the full day (ceremony, meal and ‘evening party’ which we commonly call the reception) or just the reception. No one is being asked to skip the middle part of the event.

Less than 20% of weddings are religious (and a smaller subset of this will be in churches), and I don’t really hear of anyone just turning up at the ceremony of someone they don’t know.

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Post by PapstJL4U »

jen729w wrote: post #11

I get it, but the alternative is what? Get model release forms from anyone in a public space every time you turn your video camera on? Who's to say how much of you I have in the shot? Do you feature? Did you flash by? Are you blurred? Recognisable? I was shooting video of a car park exit last year. (I was trying to prove to the shopping centre owners that it was dangerous.) Mundane footage. Some lady drives out in he…

>I get it, but the alternative is what? Get model release forms from anyone in a public space every time you turn your video camera on?

Only if you publish the video, if there is indentifiable information or when the person is the center piece of your video.

If you are professional company, you have profesional that do this for you. If you are not professional, you can make the time, because you are not doing it often.

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Post by berkes »

scratchyone wrote: post #619
berkes wrote: post #461

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We, a group of people living on a street where we get a lot of dangerous motorbikers passing our homes, started collecting these video's recently. Our goal is to get the roads closed for motorbikes, place bike-repelling infrastructure and to have police involved in the many cases of one-sided accidents. For that we need to convince local governments that motorbikes are misbehaving. So we now sift through instagram, y…

lol why do you want to punish all motorcycle riders instead of the actual people who are misbehaving....

If you have a way to "punish the misbehaving motorcycle riders" while allowing or even welcoming the rest, please share.

We've researched this. It's a European wide issue that's discussed, researched, tested and so on, throughout many communities and places. So far, there's no way to prohibit only the bad actors.

Part of the "infrastructure" changes would be things like speed bumps. Where it pays off to ride below the speed limit, and hard to ride above it. But that then makes some misbehaving drivers use their "0-100 in 8 sec" that their motorbike builder once promised. Going through four gears on a 500m stretch. The disturbance and noise gets worse then.

It gets harder because many solutions will harm all the other legitimate usage too, or harm them worse. Speed bumps and farmers' harvesting with large tractors are terrible for our houses that then literally shake on their foundation.

If, like us, you look at "motorcycle riders" as a community, it makes sense to point at that community and say: solve the danger and disturbance that those few amongst your community clearly pose to others. Because the alternative is that we'll have to "punish" your entire community.

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Post by stuaxo »

al_borland wrote: post #516
lynx97 wrote: post #503

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I am assuming you have no good alternatives regarding your gym? Because if you feel uncomfortable with the behaviour of the owners, you should really vote with your wallet.

I don’t go there anymore. The owner has been texting me on and off to try and get me to go back. I’ve been looking for other options, but am having trouble finding one that looks decent for me. It’s a bit of a paradox. When I’m looking for a gym, I find pictures incredibly helpful, but I don’t want them taken of me as a member there.

Maybe text back with the reason you aren't coming back and they might learn to be accommodating.

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Post by port11 »

eterm wrote: post #29

I wonder if it's a generational or cultural difference present in the comments here. I am sympathetic to the author, and I also find video a bit invasive of privacy in a way that photos aren't. I therefore find the (obviously common) attitude that videos are just "something you need to accept" quite alien, but I wonder how much of that attitude is just comments coming from a younger generation that have grown up with…

I'm not sure about generational. We take our baby to swimming classes where it is forbidden to take photos or record video — except on the family day. It's always the millennial or boomer parents/grandparents recording stuff and breaking that simple rule.

I think it's a matter of rudeness or carelessness about other people's rights and wellbeing. I want to record this so screw the rules and other babies' privacy.

The classes are pretty mixed, it's Belgium after all. If anything perhaps the next generation is so exposed to TikTok that they might find things less compelling to record? I can't say.

I wish respect and treasuring things without video evidence were on the rise.

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Post by physicsguy »

alexriddle wrote: post #712
TRiG_Ireland wrote: post #660

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I believe that it's uncommon in the USA to invite people to part of a wedding, but it's common in the UK. "Not someone invited to the whole day" implies a second-tier guest, who's been invited to the ceremony and the after-party, but not to the meal. The ceremony is technically open to the public in any case, usually.

Usually it would be either the full day (ceremony, meal and ‘evening party’ which we commonly call the reception) or just the reception. No one is being asked to skip the middle part of the event. Less than 20% of weddings are religious (and a smaller subset of this will be in churches), and I don’t really hear of anyone just turning up at the ceremony of someone they don’t know.

> Less than 20% of weddings are religious (and a smaller subset of this will be in churches)

That's a likely a fair underestimate because many religious marriages aren't legally valid because of various requirements that the Church of England doesn't have to follow as the state church. In Catholic churches for e.g. they need to register the building, then either appoint the priest as an authorised person or get a registrar to come to every ceremony as in a civil wedding. They do usually do this but most non-Christian religions don't bother with this at all and so the couple end up just having a civil ceremony first and the religious one after.

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Post by toolazytologin »

carlosjobim wrote: post #584
toolazytologin wrote: post #563

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> It seems to be that there's a very strange crowd hanging out on Hacker News, who are not aware of very basic social rules. Those include not trying to impress strange rules on guests you invite to an event. Because people will simply make excuses and not come to your wedding or whatnot. Are you genuinely suggesting that there is a basic social rule that says no other rules can be impressed on guests at an event? I…

Your comment is confused as to you believing that people would want to come to events with strange rules and not follow those rules. What happens in real life is that people decline to go to those events. Everybody knows how to behave at a wedding and what is proper conduct. > Are you genuinely suggesting that there is a basic social rule that says no other rules can be impressed on guests at an event? Absolutely, in…

> It seems you are trying to say "You're not welcome here!" to people who already declined an invite?

These things are not mutually exclusive.

If you don’t want to abide by the rules, you are not welcome and you should decline. Perhaps the organizer isn’t aware of your preference and your declining helps inform them. If they prefer your presence more than they like their silly rules, they might change them.

Deciding to attend a social gathering where you intentionally ignore the rules that you don’t like is narcissistic and rude behavior.

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Post by justinclift »

patmcc wrote: post #581
justinclift wrote: post #252

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> A wedding is one of the most fundamentally public events that have ever existed. Not sure why you think that? Although weddings can be in public places, they don't have to be and it's quite common for only invited guests (ie not the public) to be present.

Historically at least, it's not that weddings are in public places, but that they're inherently a performance for the community. Like the reason for having a wedding is to make a commitment publicly in front of your friends and family. That doesn't mean it needs to be open to all who want to wander in, but it's strange to think of it as a secret event. I feel like it's pretty strange (and mildly rude) to insist no on…

> but it's strange to think of it as a secret event.

Not sure why you're using the word "secret" there? Something being not-public (ie invitation only) doesn't mean it's secret or hidden. It just means it's not public.

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Post by justinclift »

ThrownOffGame wrote: post #677
lostlogin wrote: post #455

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It’s a 326 to 60,000,000 chance they are referring to NSW.

Do Englishmen frequently refer to “Blighty” in ordinary conversation? I refer to my homeland as “The States” out of courtesy to those from Canada, UK, Australia, but I had to rack my brains, and Wikipedia, about “Blighty” because it seems archaic, stilted, and arcane in a tech forum. I’ve heard England called a lot of things by its citizens, but I was under the impression that “Ol’ Blighty” died out with Queen Victor…

> Do Englishmen frequently refer to “Blighty” in ordinary conversation?

At least online, yes.

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