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Slack has raised our charges by $195k per year

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Re: Slack has raised our charges by $195k per year

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Hi, I’m Christina, cofounder of Hack Club. We just announced this news to our community, and this post is from one of the teenagers in Hack Club. It’s an accurate description of what’s happened, and we’re grateful to them for posting. Slack changed the terms of a special deal we were given last year to charge us for staff and volunteers (not for every teenager coding), and we built programs around that special rate.…

I would suggest emailing Benioff directly, an EA will screen the emails and route them to the appropriate person but I believe the charity angle might get it in front of him, and probably get the fee waived When I worked there, weirder emails ended up getting addressed.

Do you have his email address? Send it to christina@hackclub.com

Re: Slack has raised our charges by $195k per year

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Thousands of teen coders now hate Salesforce in advance . This is very shortsighted.

Wait, there are people who actually don't hate Salesforce?

Sure, pretty much anyone in a sales position that has had to use something else. Salesforce is bad, their competition is trash.

Re: Slack has raised our charges by $195k per year

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Thousands of teen coders now hate Salesforce in advance . This is very shortsighted.

Salesforce... working hard to become the SaaS-era equivalent of mid-90s "Computer Associates" (CA) ... (Regarding acquisitions of Heroic, Sendgrid, Slack, Tableau, Mulesoft, and most recently Informatica...) For those less-familiar with the reference, the Wikipedia entry[1] tells it well: In 2001, The New York Times wrote that "Computer Associates has infuriated clients with high prices and poor technical support." F…

And then Broadcom bought CA and doubled down on it.

Re: Slack has raised our charges by $195k per year

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Hi, I’m Christina, cofounder of Hack Club. We just announced this news to our community, and this post is from one of the teenagers in Hack Club. It’s an accurate description of what’s happened, and we’re grateful to them for posting. Slack changed the terms of a special deal we were given last year to charge us for staff and volunteers (not for every teenager coding), and we built programs around that special rate.…

I have a key for https://once.com/campfire by 37Signals.com, which is an alternative to Slack, that I could offer in-kind to Hack Club - if desired.

It's open source and you own your own data.

Re: Slack has raised our charges by $195k per year

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post #176

Hi, I’m Christina, cofounder of Hack Club. We just announced this news to our community, and this post is from one of the teenagers in Hack Club. It’s an accurate description of what’s happened, and we’re grateful to them for posting. Slack changed the terms of a special deal we were given last year to charge us for staff and volunteers (not for every teenager coding), and we built programs around that special rate.…

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Re: Slack has raised our charges by $195k per year

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Thousands of teen coders now hate Salesforce in advance . This is very shortsighted.

Haven't you heard? Sales force doesn't hire programmers anymore. AI is all their CEO needs. ;p. Seriously though, this behavior reminds me of Oracle, and is a great reminder that proprietary software can very quickly become a big liability.

Have you not seen Oracle's price lately?

Re: Slack has raised our charges by $195k per year

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post #551

Thousands of teen coders now hate Salesforce in advance . This is very shortsighted.

Haven't you heard? Sales force doesn't hire programmers anymore. AI is all their CEO needs. ;p. Seriously though, this behavior reminds me of Oracle, and is a great reminder that proprietary software can very quickly become a big liability.

Oracle soon owns part of TikTok. So do they own teens? Will teens be liability?

Re: Slack has raised our charges by $195k per year

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That really sucks, I like Slack but for what you get isn't necessarily worth kicking up a fuss if they're going to increase the costs.

I'm curious what they were actually getting for even the $5000/month and how many users there are? Going off the prices on Slack's homepage, for regular users to pay $200,000/year would mean they're working with ~900 users in a work group. I'm wondering if perhaps there's some automation that is kicking in when it shouldn't be?

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This is awesome, honestly. The more monopolists f_ck up, the cleaner the future to be built.

You are allowed to say fuck on the internet.

Not everywhere. Even when it's allowed it can result in shadow bans. Seems a whole lot easier to self-censor everywhere than to track who gives value to the word f**.

Re: Slack has raised our charges by $195k per year

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That doesn't really matter: Salesforce is not a technology company, it's a sales company. They need to win the loyalty of procurement decision makers, then engineers will have to use whatever the business people were sold. Exceptions are small tech-first companies where the engineers directly decide on tools.

They are just going to push the industry towards Teams at this point.

I've worked at two companies that use Telegram. Honestly, telegram provided everything that we needed as a software development team.
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