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Apple said the mini iPhones underperformed, but they were not some sort of commercial failure. They sold millions of units. Numbers most Android OEMs could only dream of for a single flagship model. Current day Apple is all about optimizing and determined that still wasn't enough, and I imagine the manufacturing for small, specialized display panels certainly took a chunk out of those margins, so Apple decided to pul…

The number of people who aren't vocal tech people who actually want a smaller phone is a very small part of the market. In HN-like circles they're a notable minority but among the general population they are a smaller percentage. Especially when you consider huge segments of the market where your phone is your only computing device: a smaller phone is a massive anti-feature in large parts of the world. Plus almost ev…

Manual transmissions have no practical benefit aside from arguably being easier to repair. A better car analogy is pickup trucks (and cars in generally really) — they've gotten huge over the years, compact pickups have disappeared, and you hear the same arguments about it being a niche audience. The reality is that as soon as something sells well (big trucks in this case), these big corporations go all in on it and alienate large segments. Now 25 year old compact Tacomas are selling for as much as their MSRP and manufacturers (Toyota, Ford, Hyundai) are all scrambling to ship a compact. It's the same with small phones — the industry over-rotated on big phones and as soon as someone ships a good small phone, it'll be a hit and small phones will come back. iPhone Mini was a crippled device compared to the Pro line and it still sold millions. Google and Samsung haven't even tried to make something compact, let alone compact and good.

Re: Pixel 10 Phones

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lol there is only 2 vendor in market right now google and apple, apple is the best in this privacy field

Did you read the thread? Google devices are orders of magnitude more private if you install a custom rom like graphene OS or lineage + microg. Apple is pretty much the same as a vanilla google phone in comparison.

> Google devices are orders of magnitude more private if you install a custom rom like graphene OS or lineage + microg.

Sure, but then it ceases being a Google device. The discussion is focused around Pixel, as is, vs. Apple/iOS, in which case Apple wins by far in that aspect.

Re: Pixel 10 Phones

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post #254

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Apple said the mini iPhones underperformed, but they were not some sort of commercial failure. They sold millions of units. Numbers most Android OEMs could only dream of for a single flagship model. Current day Apple is all about optimizing and determined that still wasn't enough, and I imagine the manufacturing for small, specialized display panels certainly took a chunk out of those margins, so Apple decided to pul…

iPhone 14 Pro = Weight 206 g (7.27 oz) iPhone 16 Pro = Weight 199 g (7.02 oz) The weight difference (7 grams) seems negligible

It's slight, but noticeable. The 15 Pro was 187g and felt much lighter than the 14 Pro, it's a shame they added more weight on the 16.

Re: Pixel 10 Phones

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> Tensor G5 and the latest version of Gemini Nano work together to run Magic Cue privately and securely on your phone. Running Gemini Nano on device is the most interesting thing here. Magic Cue sounds exactly like the Siri improvements that Apple failed to launch this past year (and have stayed mostly quiet about for this coming year, except saying "eventually"). I hope it works well, because on-device AI for simple…

> I love the idea of an on-device model

My impression is that most people here haven't tried similar small models and don't have first hand experience with them. They are, to be honest, terrible. They may be good for certain tasks, but are much weaker than something like GPT4. I don't feel excited about these small models that are not fast yet hallucinate all the time.

Re: Pixel 10 Phones

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Unfortunately these new phones don't fix the main issue with the Pixel: the hardware. The performance is just unacceptable, it's already 50%+ slower than a snapdragon 8 elite flagship released in the same year. This affects everything, pixels just don't last nor have great battery life for this reason.And the big issue is they aren't even much cheaper anymore. I like GrapheneOS, but my pixel just randomly stopped wor…

My last two Pixel phones - 6a and 7a - were both "recalled" with battery issues. I got almost a complete refund for both, and got keep the phone (my 7a died a few months after the recall, 6a is still going strong). I got a 9a to replace them just because I didn't want to have to deal with learning iPhone, but I'm fully expecting the 9a to fail with a similar issue so looking at buying an iPhone soon as a backup so I…

Both my 4a an 6a got the battery nerf update. I had no idea this impacted the 7a as well. I prefer Pixels for Android Development but my trust in Google is at an all time low.

Re: Pixel 10 Phones

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> For instance, when you're calling an airline, it can automatically find your flight details from your email and display it during your phone call. Is this really the best example usecase they can think of? How often does an individual call an airline? I'm sure in aggregate they get a lot of calls, but I don't think I've ever had to. It just seems really weird that this is the top example of on-device AI. The other…

> How often does an individual call an airline? It's a very simple example that people can see the value for right away. It also acts as a good placeholder for hotel, car rental agency, restaurant, etc. Any place you'd have a ticket/reservation for that you might need to call.

Like parent, I did not "see the value" "right away", but on the contrary, I am more confused about what the phone brings.

Re: Pixel 10 Phones

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The people at Google seem to think much more like me than the people at Apple. There are 3 primary decisions Google made that click with me, while Apple's choices are a mystery to me: 1: When I put a Pixel on a table, it sits there stable. Because the backside is symmetrical. When I put an iPhone on a table, it wobbles. 2: When I sort my photos on a Pixel, I sort them in folders. The "camera" folder is where the unso…

I prefer Android. Unlike iPhone, the Android notifications system actually makes sense, and I can use real Firefox on Android. But, I prefer phones sized to fit in a human hand even more, so I'm stuck on an iPhone 13 Mini. Please make a ~4.5" screen Pixel phone, Google :(

So true. I switched from a lineage of several pixels ending in 7 to an iPhone for various reasons. The only thing I really miss outside of niche apps after finding a better calendar is a sane notification system! iOs lock screen notifications provide so little useful information and sometimes get buried.

Re: Pixel 10 Phones

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> For instance, when you're calling an airline, it can automatically find your flight details from your email and display it during your phone call. Is this really the best example usecase they can think of? How often does an individual call an airline? I'm sure in aggregate they get a lot of calls, but I don't think I've ever had to. It just seems really weird that this is the top example of on-device AI. The other…

It is odd that they considered that a common usecase. Perhaps they really wanted to show a good looking widget and I suppose flight info was the best candidate. I have had some calls with family or friends about an upcoming flight where this could've saved a few seconds. Would I want to save a few seconds in exchange for their processing of my whole conversation even if offline? That's another story.

To me it's a solution looking for a problem. Just revisit Microsoft's marketing material for their Copilot products. Bizarre use cases one after another.

Re: Pixel 10 Phones

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As someone who prefers iphones… - iPhone wobble is real. Mostly mitigated by a proper case. Does the iPhone get a better camera in return? Usually in my experience. - I don’t sort my photos. The semantic search has been sufficient, and I back everything up to my NAS via an iCloud docker shim. - Chrome/chromium is adware garbage now. FireFox is the only browser I use. The FS API does sound great though. Enviable given…

> I back everything up to my NAS via an iCloud docker shim As someone who refuses to pay extra for iCloud storage, can you tell me how to do this? I haven't figured out a good (read: easy) way to backup photos from my iPhone to computer/external storage (I don't want to use iTunes software cause I don't need everything syncing both ways).

I'd be curious too. Family fills up iCloud very quickly. I use a self hosted immich instance on my nas to back photos up and share with family members.

Re: Pixel 10 Phones

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Could anyone here waxing lyrically about Apple so called privacy stand explain to me what that actually is apart from a marketing point Apple keeps repeating? Because from where I stand they do load everything into their cloud. They insist on having you pay for iCloud through obnoxious means. They have you go through their store for everything. They even have an ad platform. What supposedly so good about it? Their tr…

> Could anyone here waxing lyrically about Apple so called privacy stand explain to me what that actually is apart from a marketing point Apple keeps repeating? The end-to-end encryption guarantees on this page seem pretty real to me and have little to do with marketing: https://support.apple.com/en-us/102651

Google backup on Android is also end-to-end encryption. The difference is that on Android, I can self-host anything that Apple won't end-to-end encrypt, like maps or application installs.
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