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Re: Marines being mobilized in response to LA protests

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Post by HamsterDan »

FireBeyond wrote: post #151
vjvjvjvjghv wrote: post #50

This is probably an unpopular opinion but I would like politicians on the left to speak up about the rioting and burning of stuff at the current protests and also the Tesla and George Floyd protests. It doesn’t help the cause if we allow some assholes to destroy stuff. Basically they are giving people like Trump an excuse to deploy force and a lot of people will agree. I can’t see what is achieved by burning cars and…

The best quote I heard about the BLM / Floyd protests: "Too many people are saying, "It's terrible that innocent black men died, but this property destruction has to stop!" when they should be saying, "It's terrible that there is property destruction, but the death of innocent black men has to stop!"."

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Re: Marines being mobilized in response to LA protests

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Post by i_love_retros »

aaronbaugher wrote: post #675
i_love_retros wrote: post #647

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You could try to convince Democrats (and their establishment GOP pals) to stop flooding the country with illegals and taking their side against Americans even when they riot under foreign flags. That would suck the air right out of the Republicans' #1 issue that's gaining them votes. Good luck with that.

Yeah? Should we also get the dems to cosy up with neo Nazi gangs and Russian dictators? Seems the people voting for trump support that.

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Post by laurent_du »

aaronbaugher wrote: post #652
jl6 wrote: post #514

It's clear that many commenters here are operating from completely different factual bases, in terms of who did what, and in what order. Fog of war seems to be in effect.

It takes a lot of words to convince people not to believe what they can see for themselves in video.

Not really? These people will simply disregard the clips, claiming they are a piece of right-wing propaganda, and that the protest are peaceful, because how could it be otherwise? Of course fighting ICE, feds, and helping criminals (in some case drug dealers and even at least one murderer) is inherently peaceful, just like the BLM riots were.

Re: Marines being mobilized in response to LA protests

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Post by laurent_du »

thesuitonym wrote: post #582
jl6 wrote: post #514

It's clear that many commenters here are operating from completely different factual bases, in terms of who did what, and in what order. Fog of war seems to be in effect.

Fog of war? Call it what it is: A misinformation campaign fueled by one of the most successful propaganda networks in history.

The funny thing is that it's impossible to know which side you belong to just by reading this one comment.

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Post by komali2 »

socalgal2 wrote: post #679
JumpCrisscross wrote: post #260

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> One fights the enemies of the state "At stake is a fundamental component of the framework of US constitutional democracy. It begins with the principle, enshrined in law, that military forces exist to protect the country from existential threats — such as an invasion or rebellion — not to enforce the law. Most fundamentally, the founders of the American republic understood very clearly that concentrated military pow…

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America is a melting pot, many people are proud of their heritage. If seeing a Mexican flag triggers you, I'm wondering if you hold American values, or something else?

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Post by tiagod »

jxjnskkzxxhx wrote: post #406
kpw94 wrote: post #302

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> military forces exist to protect the country from existential threats — such as an invasion or rebellion — not to enforce the law. serious question: are Countries such as Italy, France etc not a democracy? All of them are, verbatim from wikipedia, "a military force with law enforcement duties among the civilian population.". Ditto for spain Guardia Civil, and many of the countries listed in that same wiki page: Alg…

In Portugal, the Guarda Civil are cops in rural areas. I have no special insight into their training or hierarchy, but I can tell you that in practice they interact with the population like cops, not like soldiers. E.g. you wouldn't report shoplifting to the army, but you can report to the Guarda Civil. So I don't think your comment makes any sense, at least in Portugal.

There is no "Guarda Civil" in Portugal. It's called Guarda Nacional Republicana (GNR).

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Post by laurent_du »

internet_points wrote: post #409

https://bsky.app/profile/iwillnotbesilenced.bsky.social/post... The galaxy is watching.

Funny that this "proud Mexican" has such a long story to tell but zero proof to show. Neither he nor his girlfriend were able to record any of that while sitting comfortably in their car?

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Post by aaronbaugher »

conartist6 wrote: post #543
vjvjvjvjghv wrote: post #50

This is probably an unpopular opinion but I would like politicians on the left to speak up about the rioting and burning of stuff at the current protests and also the Tesla and George Floyd protests. It doesn’t help the cause if we allow some assholes to destroy stuff. Basically they are giving people like Trump an excuse to deploy force and a lot of people will agree. I can’t see what is achieved by burning cars and…

You would do well to remember that the protesters likely feel it would be accomplishing their political goals to provoke a larger violent confrontation with the police. The best case for the protesters looking to undermine Trump is if they convince the US Marines to open fire and slaughter lots of innocents on live TV. That could make these protests 10x - 100x larger than they are currently. Think Boston Massacre and…

I doubt the rioters want to be slaughtered to undermine the president. But the people egging them on and providing them with riot masks seem to like the idea.

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Post by FirmwareBurner »

InsideOutSanta wrote: post #687
FirmwareBurner wrote: post #417

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Doesn't post-pandemic Canada have the highest rate of legal immigration in years since government gives out immigration visas like candy? I can't see how this is good in a country that already has a stagnating economy and a housing crisis. You're eroding the bargaining power of local labor and increasing competition for housing in an already tight market.

>I can't see how this is good in a country that already has a stagnating economy and a housing crisis Increasing immigration is a good way to revitalize a stagnant economy. This is the great chasm between people's intuition of how national economies work and economists' understanding of how they work.

>Increasing immigration is a good way to revitalize a stagnant economy.

Then why is Canada's economy stagnating with all that emigration? When is that supposed economic boom coming?

The second issue is, if that economic boom is gonna trickle down to the Canadian working class or only to the top 1% of Canadian business and asset owning class while everyone else is left holding the bag?

Because we've been duped for decades with this uncontrolled immigration trickle down economic fallacy.

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Post by jjk7 »

riskable wrote: post #615
matt-attack wrote: post #598

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Asylum seekers come to the US to literally escape torture and death . It's not like they're searching for the best freebies. They're looking for someplace safe to live. Once they get into the US they don't just live off of social services. What the US provides isn't nearly enough for that. So they end up working, their kids go to school, and those kids eventually have children who are US citizens. That's literally th…

Less than half of the asylum seekers have valid claim.

Saying "Asylum _seekers_ come to the US to literally escape torture and death" is disingenuous.

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