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Someone at YouTube needs glasses

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Re: Someone at YouTube needs glasses

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Post by adrianmsmith »

Havoc wrote: post #222

Yes, for all their A/B testing they could really do with a bit more common sense. Like why do thumbnails have an invisible overlay that appears on hover over, hijacks the click and takes you to a support page about paid product placement? I'm clicking on the thumbnail to watch the video not for a jarring detour off the youtube page to a boring help article. Honestly WTF. Maybe the UI designers don't use youtube thems…

It's better now, the support page opens in a new tab, so you can close the tab and go back and click on the (right place of the) video thumbnail.

It used to open that page in the same tab you were in. So you press the browser's back button, you get back to the YouTube home page, but now it's shown you different recommendations and the video you wanted to click on is gone, and you've no idea what it was called...

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Post by homefree »

williamdclt wrote: post #527
mitthrowaway2 wrote: post #367

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So you don't buy Oreos, and think the best way to eat them is not to have them in the house. I agree. That's why I don't have TikTok on my phone. So why can't I keep YouTube Shorts disabled? I'm telling them I don't want it. If I'm the kind of person who doesn't keep Oreos in the house to avoid eating them, why would I go to a grocery store that insists on slipping a pack of Oreos into every third bag of carrots?

> why can't I keep YouTube Shorts disabled? > why would I go to a grocery store that insists on slipping a pack of Oreos into every third bag of carrots? You can see how these are not analogous. The store _is_ slipping Oreos in your vegetables. So yeah… don’t install TikTok _or_ YouTube. I get that you’d rather YouTube to be YouTube-without-shorts, but it’s not a thing anymore, vegetables-without-Oreos is not an opti…

I think the thing they got wrong is it’s not a grocery store. It’s a casino - you can have a good time there, but the house isn’t interested in what’s best for you, but what’s best for them.

Even that’s imperfect because Zuck really was interested in the interactions he thought were best despite them not being highest engagement, but you can’t only do that and stay alive in a competitive market.

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Post by etruong42 »

imbnwa wrote: post #683
chii wrote: post #628

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The intention was that some product manager wanted their name/team to have made impact at the quarterly review.

Proliferation of middle management as a separate track killed software

I agree. Any thoughts on how to stop and maybe reverse the proliferation?

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Post by flkenosad »

etruong42 wrote: post #713
imbnwa wrote: post #683

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Proliferation of middle management as a separate track killed software

I agree. Any thoughts on how to stop and maybe reverse the proliferation?

Fire the managers. More realistically, just let the big bulky companies fumble around until eventually they're outcompeted by the next generation of startups.

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Post by ttctciyf »

stephen_g wrote: post #697
ttctciyf wrote: post #627

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It's been permanent for me the last couple of years or so. Is it because I'm signed in to youtube, maybe? The setting propagates to other browsers signed in to the same account, I think.

No, it's not propagated to other browsers signed into the same account, it explicitly says that in the settings page. Maybe part of the issue is that I am logged into the same account across three different devices, or that I have other Google accounts too logged in (but I don't use YouTube in them, only the account with Premium). Anyway, it should be trivial for Google to make it actually permanent (I would love it…

> it's not propagated to other browsers signed into the same account, it explicitly says that in the settings page

Yeah, you are absolutely right & I misremembered - forgot I copied over my browser profile.

It is definitely a permanent setting for me though, on both laptop & desktop profiles, haven't had to re-set it since I discovered it. (Firefox/linux).

Maybe the difference is in handling multiple google accounts differently. My approach: I tend to create browser profiles for specifiec tasks; the youtube viewing profile (used daily) is permanently signed in to my (non-Premium) youtube account, but when I check my actual gmail mail (for example) which is a different google account, I do it on a different browser profile.

Apologies for confusion over propagation, anyhow & thanks for the correction!

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Post by djaychela »

aenopix wrote: post #227

Ublock Origin in Firefox: ``` ! Display 6 per row youtube.com##ytd-rich-grid-row, #contents.ytd-rich-grid-row:style(display:contents !important;) youtube.com##ytd-rich-grid-renderer, html:style(--ytd-rich-grid-items-per-row: 6 !important;) youtube.com##ytd-rich-grid-renderer, html:style(--ytd-rich-grid-posts-per-row: 6 !important;) ! Block on profiles "/videos" youtube.com##ytd-rich-grid-row:matches-path(/. \/videos/…

Forgive my ignorance, but how do you actually apply this?

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Post by naikrovek »

IIsi50MHz wrote: post #699
alterom wrote: post #695

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>Using the most commonly version of the product, on the commonly used hardware, at least 2 days a week should be a prerequisite for every product owner. I am a firm believer that the software should also be developed on commonly used hardware. Your average user isn't going to have the top-of-the-line MacBook pro, and your program isn't going to be the only thing running on it. It may run fine on your beefed up monstr…

"The Microsoft Store" app is such a strong example of what happens when nobody cares about performance. It misses UI events most of the time, regardless of what hardware it's running on. Although, in this case, I don't think a Pentium 166MHz would help. The UI event processing is just fundamentally flawed. Usually, but not always, it ignores scroll events while an animation is playing…and hovering over a tile in the…

I have never experienced any of this. It’s not a great app, but I’ve never had any problems like you’re describing. Or .. somehow I don’t remember them, but that seems unlikely; I’m always willing to dogpile on a shitty application, but I have to experience the things.

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Post by nativeit »

dylan604 wrote: post #293
nanna wrote: post #170

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I go to HN, text. Hallelujah.

Waiting for the Show HN browser extension that reformats all HN posts to fit into a shorts frame. Then rather than just displaying the text, it puts it in an annoying animated font. Maybe even adds an AI character to read it to you

Can I get some royalty-free slop-pop on a loop?

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Post by nativeit »

therein wrote: post #393
mitthrowaway2 wrote: post #367

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So you don't buy Oreos, and think the best way to eat them is not to have them in the house. I agree. That's why I don't have TikTok on my phone. So why can't I keep YouTube Shorts disabled? I'm telling them I don't want it. If I'm the kind of person who doesn't keep Oreos in the house to avoid eating them, why would I go to a grocery store that insists on slipping a pack of Oreos into every third bag of carrots?

It all checks out if you recognize YouTube clearly doesn't consider the app and the website to be your turf. You are in their home, they have oreos all over the place and they will offer it to you over and over again. You'll ask if they have water, they'll bring it with a box of oreos. You'll ask where the bathroom is, and find an Oreo waiting for you by the sink in case you'd like to indulge.

"Thanks, but I asked for heroin..."

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Post by etruong42 »

flkenosad wrote: post #714
etruong42 wrote: post #713

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I agree. Any thoughts on how to stop and maybe reverse the proliferation?

Fire the managers. More realistically, just let the big bulky companies fumble around until eventually they're outcompeted by the next generation of startups.

I don't hate the sentiment, but realistically, big bulky companies would go down in flames with much collateral damage from lobbying the government, regulatory capture, anticompetitive practices, squashing creative destruction that might threaten their dominance, etc.
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